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Nobody accepts defeat in a religious debate

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by krsnaraja, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. krsnaraja

    krsnaraja Active Member

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    Its alright if you are not a member of any Catholic organization. I`m not even a member of ISKCON. :)
     
  2. Awoon

    Awoon Well-Known Member

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    Nobody in the religions ever come clean with their beliefs. That way nobody accepts defeat.
     
  3. AmbiguousGuy

    AmbiguousGuy Well-Known Member

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    Changing the other guy's opinion can take a long time. In the passion of a confrontational debate, opinions rarely change. But over a period of months or years, people who seriously engage these debates will sometimes experience a sea change.
     
  4. krsnaraja

    krsnaraja Active Member

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    That`s precisely we end up all here at general religious debates. It will take us years to resolve what we have debated. The more we are held-up in this forum the better for the Religious Forum organizers to savor & knowing RF`s cash register is kling kling kling kling...:D
     
  5. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    You've never heard of leaving something at loose ends?
     
  6. Photonic

    Photonic Ad astra!

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    I'll accept defeat if the facts do not support my argument, or if I find I am being irrational.
     
  7. krsnaraja

    krsnaraja Active Member

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    Have you been irrational before or the facts did not support your argument? If you ask me this question my answer is maybe.
     
  8. Photonic

    Photonic Ad astra!

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    Yes, I re-orientate and continue unless the conclusion supports the opposing viewpoint. I have been wrong.
     
  9. Me Myself

    Me Myself Back to my username

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    If I accept your affirmation as true, and though accept defeat on the fact that nobody accepts defeat... do we implode reality? :eek:
     
  10. Renji

    Renji Well-Known Member

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    Ok, let's just have an "RF tea party" on my birthday. :D
     
  11. .lava

    .lava Veteran Member

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    noone wins either. i think it is for understanding, not for winning

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  12. krsnaraja

    krsnaraja Active Member

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    In college, the brightest in the class are recipients of the school`s organizing a debate usually political. The brightest are divided into two groups. One is the PRO & the other is the CON. Don`t tell me nobody wins in this kind of debate? There should be someone assigned to make decisions on who wins in these debates. Otherwise it`s called in chess a perpetual check & therefore a draw. Yes you learned something from it & had fun as well. But the energies being expended during the course of these debates if you will realize may have caused an earthquake say in Turkey or a tsunami say in Japan. These religious debates are flapping of butterflies wings e.g. Chaos Theory & should be resolved immediately lest it will cause the destruction of planet earth.
     
  13. Shermana

    Shermana Heretic

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    I propose some kind of a "refereed debate" forum on this site, assuming there isn't one somewhere already.
     
  14. krsnaraja

    krsnaraja Active Member

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    In elections, board or corporate, the ones chosen to count the votes are not allowed to vote. The reason is obvious why the canvasser of votes can`t participate in the campaign & voting. The referee in the debate can only referee but has no say on who won in the debate. In other words the referee inhibits himself from casting his vote on a particular debater or making an impression to the viewers that this particular debater is better than this & that debater.

    To find out who really won in the religious debate- RF members cast their votes on the one who started the debate. A box is placed after his post by either checking if in the affirmative & crossing if his subsequent explanations can`t stand further scrutiny from the opposition. Anymore suggestions on how to go around it-full circle?
     
  15. Photonic

    Photonic Ad astra!

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    Let us then divide by zero.
     
  16. krsnaraja

    krsnaraja Active Member

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    Well, I love Coke-Zero. I drink it everyday. :)
     
  17. Willamena

    Willamena Just me
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    De feet!

    Deal with it.
     
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  18. krsnaraja

    krsnaraja Active Member

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    Your feet is long & slender. The plantar surface is smooth. Can I tickle it?
     
  19. Oneatatime

    Oneatatime Huh?

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    When two or more people are discussing an issue from fundamentally different starting points it's unlikely that the issue is going to be resolved. In it's simplest form when a person who accepts the existence of God and another person doesn't those issues which are dependent on belief or lack of belief in that God are unlikely to be resolved. This is particularly true when an discussion revolves around scriptural claims which the theist takes as being true on face value and which the atheist is unlikely to accept as having any validity.

    Despite this there are instances where a theists and atheists can hold to the same view for completely different reasons, such as a theist respecting life because they believe it to be God created it and an atheist respecting life because they believe life has inherent value. Under such circumstances there is ample room for agreement and constructive discussion on issues of the value of life.
     
  20. krsnaraja

    krsnaraja Active Member

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    Somethings never change. People agree to disagree. The only way I guess to resolve this issue is to go to bed. If he`s a gay, I massage his back. If she`s a lesbian, I massage her front. If he`s a guy, I let him massage my back. If she`s a woman, I let her...guess? :D

    Pun aside. You`re correct. But most here do it for fun, camaraderie & to learn things which they did not learn in kindergarten. & most specially, human beings are by nature are social beings. They need to entwine with other human beings be it in the medium of a debate or in a heated discussion. You`d be more afraid if the people you debate with say only a few words.
     
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