No Wonder the Bible is Anybody's Guess

[Glaurung]

The worshippers of the King James bible may disagree with you. They have this 7th of the 7th translation thing, which is supposedly to make their version perfect. This despite that it appears to me to be among one of the worst translations.

A fringe position among certain types of fundamentalist Protestant notwithstanding, I stand by my original statement.

Although I will grant that the King James is an English language masterpiece.

 

[BilliardsBall]

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It's gone through rewrite after rewrite.

Producing 127 different complete Bibles and 35 partial Bibles.
source: Wikipedia


Which has resulted in very different types of books!

Producing . . . .

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SO, WHAT'S GOING ON?

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What's going on:

1) Many Bible can be had now in English that are STRAIGHT from the original languages without interpolations (Latin Bibles et al)

2) You would be suspicious if only ONE translation was available--where would be the room for alternative translations?

3) There are two schools of thought a) dynamic translation "get the phrase across, if a group doesn't have snow, use the word for something else that is white instead" and b) formal translation "every word as close to what God said as possible"

4) Different groups with different desires do fresh translations "it's a free country"

Your OP is misleading, lacks facts, and again, casts aspersions where none exist among Jews and Christians.

 

[Skwim]

Your OP is misleading, lacks facts, and again, casts aspersions where none exist among Jews and Christians.

What is misleading?
What isn't factual?
What aspersions were cast?

And if you can't give a straight forward answer to all three of these questions without going into irrelevancies don't bother replying.

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[Dell]

Good thing the Jews can read the original. Anyone an learn.

And that's just the changes to the bible canon interpreted from manuscripts copied from copies prior, worse yet the 40 years or so of verbal retelling prior to the original written gospel accounts by unknown authors attributed to the persons of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

 

[BilliardsBall]

What is misleading?
What isn't factual?
What aspersions were cast?

And if you can't give a straight forward answer to all three of these questions without going into irrelevancies don't bother replying.

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Misleading: "Translations cannot be trusted, because none exist now that aren't straight from the original languages to indigenous languages."

Not factual: "The Bible doesn't make sense because too many people have made different translations in English."

Aspersions: "Bible translators have dark agendas."

 

[Skwim]

Misleading: "Translations cannot be trusted, because none exist now that aren't straight from the original languages to indigenous languages."

Not factual: "The Bible doesn't make sense because too many people have made different translations in English."

Aspersions: "Bible translators have dark agendas."

BUT YOU WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT THE BIBLE. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MY OP

"Your OP is misleading, lacks facts, and again, casts aspersions where none exist among Jews and Christians."​

Good grief man, do you not even read what you say, or don't your understand it?

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[Kelly of the Phoenix]

What would clergy get out of lying to people? How would it benefit them?

People willing to listen to them no matter how stupid they are?

Just translation issues. The source material is what matters.

But we don't have them?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

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It's gone through rewrite after rewrite.

Producing 127 different complete Bibles and 35 partial Bibles.
source: Wikipedia


Which has resulted in very different types of books!

Producing . . . .

View attachment 25208​

SO, WHAT'S GOING ON?

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I have no idea what the best translation is and do not read Hebrew or Greek and must rely on scholarly experts and their discussions and critiques to better understand the Bible. I do not hold a view of literal inerrancy and have found no sufficient reason to change that view.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Good thing I'm a Catholic. I just let the monks figure it out.

It was that way for 1500 plus years and God was with our ancestors through that time. Now days, anybody and their uncle can re-interpret it and according to each interpreter, their interpretation is the correct one.

 

[BilliardsBall]

BUT YOU WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT THE BIBLE. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MY OP

"Your OP is misleading, lacks facts, and again, casts aspersions where none exist among Jews and Christians."​

Good grief man, do you not even read what you say, or don't your understand it?

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Your OP stunk, it was saying things about some imagined MODERN proliferation/readership of Bibles from Latin and other garbage.

 

[Skwim]

Your OP stunk,

The hell you say. But I understand. Facts sometimes have that effect on people who don't like them.

it was saying things about some imagined MODERN proliferation/readership of Bibles from Latin and other garbage.

25¢ you don't even know what you're talking about here, which wouldn't be surprising; you didn't even know where you were when you replied in post #65.

In any case,
have a good day
and rest up

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