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No such thing as Reincarnation

Discussion in 'Theological Concepts' started by SheikhHorusFromTheSky, Aug 3, 2013.

  1. SheikhHorusFromTheSky

    SheikhHorusFromTheSky New Member

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    All of this hoo-ha-hee about reincarnation are scientifically and empirically false, as much of the so-called "evidence" is mainly through out-of-body experiences and such. This article refutes the idea of reincarnation.

    Islam-Sikhism - Soteriology (REINCARNATION DEBUNKED)

    Check this one out, too.
    This Must Be Heaven : Sam Harris
     
  2. nithyastha

    nithyastha New Member

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    Science is too Small to measure life

    Life is too Big To be Measured by Science
     
  3. SheikhHorusFromTheSky

    SheikhHorusFromTheSky New Member

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    You can still have Esotericism in Science; it's just that reincarnation does not exist.
     
  4. nithyastha

    nithyastha New Member

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    What is the strong proof that Re-incarnation does not exist. if u can prove.

    There is strong proof in psychology that Re-incarnation exists.
     
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  5. SheikhHorusFromTheSky

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    Did you look at the links? It explains of a thing called false memory, which does exist. The only person who tried to prove reincarnation was Ian Stevenson, who did not do it quite successfully.
     
  6. nithyastha

    nithyastha New Member

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    Have u read the book

    Many Lives , Many Masters

    Same Soul , Many Bodies.
     
  7. SheikhHorusFromTheSky

    SheikhHorusFromTheSky New Member

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    Not at all. Any credible information?
     
  8. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification Staff Member Premium Member

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    If reincarnation does exist, it sure isn't as self-evident as, say, language acquisition.

    Maybe it is simply rare, or as subtle that its very existence may be arguable.

    Most of the events presented as evidence for the existence of reincarnation are quite unusual even if taken at face value. Why would it be so if reincarnation were common?

    Are we to believe that only one in thousands of people reincarnates, or does so in a way that leaves something that might be argued as evidence? If so, why even interpret it as reincarnation instead of something less contrived such as perhaps ESP?
     
  9. SheikhHorusFromTheSky

    SheikhHorusFromTheSky New Member

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    For me, I believe in a metaphorical reincarnation, where you go through many phases in just one lifetime.
     
  10. nithyastha

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    SheikhHorusFromTheSky You should understand what u r trying to do , you Already have a Judgement then u r collecting for Evidence. first have the space for enquiry to happen.
     
  11. nithyastha

    nithyastha New Member

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    your cognition is partial
     
  12. SheikhHorusFromTheSky

    SheikhHorusFromTheSky New Member

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    Wha'?

    What are you talking about?
     
  13. Poeticus

    Poeticus | abhyAvartin |

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    Namaste,

    You really put an anti-Sikh website as a credible source? I mean, the Sam Harris one was persuasive, but the one above? Phew...

    That's like a skateboarder trying to teach a kickflip by posting videos of a roller skater.

    M.V.
     
  14. Taahir

    Taahir New Member

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    How exactly would we scientifically be able to prove or disprove reincarnation in any way? Reincarnation seems like something that is beyond any understanding of worldly science.
     
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  15. Kalidas

    Kalidas Well-Known Member

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    Well my two cents is this: Heaven is FAR less believable then reincarnation. Lets say we all do have souls and they all go places when we die. Those that believe in Heaven or Hell say the souls go to one of those places despite the facts that no such places can be seen in the known universe. While reincarnationists say they are reborn into other living beings, things we CAN prove and KNOW exist.
     
  16. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita

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    This mainstream belief is everyone reincarnates. Only one in thousands carry specific memories that echo into this lifetime.
     
  17. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita

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    Correction, Dr. Stevenson never said he was trying to 'prove' reincarnation. He was presenting evidence 'suggestive' of reincarnation. He was quite successful at that.

    His evidence combined with evidence and teachings from other sources creates a strong case for reincarnation. A belief I strongly hold.

    I didn't bother to read your links just like you didn't read the pro-reincarnation sources another poster mentioned. Anything with the title 'Reincarnation Debunked' is obviously dripping with one-sided emotional motivation. I'd be more inclined to read a post titled 'reincarnation intelligently considered' by someone who rejects reincarnation.
     
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  18. Vinayaka

    Vinayaka devotee

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    I didn't believe in it last lifetime.
     
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  19. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita

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    IMO. Well heaven and reincarnation both exists. Heaven is the between life state (also called the astral plane and is still a temporary state).

    The problem with your argument there is 'what happens to souls between lifetimes?'. They are not in the known universe.
     
  20. Kalidas

    Kalidas Well-Known Member

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    I never said they just instantly reincarnated, and honestly ?I do not know. I am speaking of the "eternal heaven". You are free to believe in heaven or hell that's fine. I honestly don't know if I do. my argument was only to bring up this one fact. It is easy to prove livings things exist it is VERY hard to prove heaven or hell exist. This if one believes in souls I see reincarnation as the "more logical" belief.
     
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