No Rapture, No Millennium Kingdom

[questfortruth]

My personal opinion. Let us discuss.

Dear friends, according to Holy Fathers of Eastern Orthodox Church,
there will be no rapture at all, and no 1000 years of Christ ruling from Jerusalem.
There will be 3 and half years of Antichrist and then the Judgement Day, without the Millennium thing.

Yes, there are Rapture and Millennium in the Bible.
But because my Church has not agreed, the God has agreed with my Church.

 

[mangalavara]

Yes, there are Rapture and Millennium in the Bible.

Where?

 

[questfortruth]

Where?

Apostle Paul, and the Revelation of John.

 

[mangalavara]

Apostle Paul, and the Revelation of John.

Ok. Could you please cite the verse(s) in Paul?

 

[questfortruth]

Ok. Could you please cite the verse(s) in Paul?

Please read your Bible again.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Dear friends, according to Holy Fathers of Eastern Orthodox Church,
there will be no rapture at all, and no 1000 years of Christ ruling from Jerusalem.
There will be 3 and half years of Antichrist and then the Judgement Day, without the Millennium thing.

Yes, there are Rapture and Millennium in the Bible.
But because my Church has not agreed, the God has agreed with my Church.

Does "your church" deside what God have to do?

 

[Suave]

Dear friends, according to Holy Fathers of Eastern Orthodox Church,
there will be no rapture at all, and no 1000 years of Christ ruling from Jerusalem.
There will be 3 and half years of Antichrist and then the Judgement Day, without the Millennium thing.

Yes, there are Rapture and Millennium in the Bible.
But because my Church has not agreed, the God has agreed with my Church.

I agree with your Church, because if the rapture were to actually occur, then planes with an all-Christian flight crew would be left pilotless resulting in wrecks killing non-believers before they'd have a chance to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior in contrast to those left behind realizing the Rapture occurred convincing them to accept Jesus Christ's Salvation.

The song Rapture by Debbie Harry (aka Blondie) popularized rap music in 1979.

 

[questfortruth]

Does "your church" deside what God have to do?

Stop pushing me towards ban.

 

[InChrist]

Ok. Could you please cite the verse(s) in Paul?

Here is a related link about the Rapture...

What is the Pretribulation Rapture?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Stop pushing me towards ban.

I did not push at all, i just asked a normal question.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Please read your Bible again.

Or read yours. The traditional Christian view is when you die you stay dead until the day of Judgement when everyone is resurrected. No rapture, no going to Heaven, but those judged worthy on that Day are granted access into the Kingdom when that time comes.

 

[questfortruth]

I did not push at all, i just asked a normal question.

Stop asking such nonsense, I am not criminal neither bully, nor troll.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Stop asking such nonsense, I am not criminal neither bully, nor troll.

Did i call you any of that?

 

[sun rise]

Stop pushing me towards ban.

You don't want debate in a debate area.

 

[questfortruth]

You don't want debate in a debate area.

I do not like than one pushes me towards ban. I was banned over 30 times.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I do not like than one pushes me towards ban. I was banned over 30 times.

Can i ask why you think my question would get you banned if you answer it?

I do not mean you any harm, just want to understand your way of thinking.

 

[mangalavara]

Please read your Bible again.

What an uncaring way to say, ‘I (questfortruth) don’t know where in Paul’s epistles!’

Here is a related link about the Rapture...

What is the Pretribulation Rapture?

Without sending me a link to another article, please answer this question, is ‘the rapture’ a secret rapture?

 

[InChrist]

Without sending me a link to another article, please answer this question, is ‘the rapture’ a secret rapture?

What do you mean “secret rapture”?
I believe the rapture will come at an unexpected time... no one knows the day or the hour (Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32), but once it occurs it certainly will not be a secret when people are missing around the world, including all children. Although, it will likely be explained away with alternative reasons by world leaders.

 

[questfortruth]

including all children.

Children have Original Sin and other sins.

 

[mangalavara]

What do you mean “secret rapture”?

From what I understand, the term secret rapture indicates that the pre-tribulation rapture of dispensationalism does not involve an appearance of Jesus that would be noticed by the whole world. First Thessalonians 4.15-17 is thought to refer to that rapture.

When I read 1 Thessalonians 4.15-17, I notice that Jesus 'will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God' (NKJV). To me, that sounds like a visible and very noisy appearance. The whole world would have to be aware of it.

once it occurs it certainly will not be a secret when people are missing around the world, including all children.

That would be noticeable, yeah.

it will likely be explained away with alternative reasons by world leaders

I can hear them saying, 'Extraterrestrials have abducted our children.'

Children have Original Sin and other sins.

You sound less Eastern Orthodox in every thread that you post. From what I recall, Eastern Orthodox Christianity teaches the concept of Ancestral Sin: Adam's failure to obey God resulted in a human nature that is mortal and consequently inclined toward sin. Infants inherit that human nature, not guilt. For this reason, Eastern Orthodox Christianity does not teach that infants go to hell upon death. Considering that @InChrist believes that all children will be raptured, I think she might believe in the doctrine of Ancestral Sin rather than Original Sin.