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Featured Nine Pieces Of Evidence That Confirm The Historical Accuracy Of The Bible

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Skwim, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. MJFlores

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    What was prophesied then, of course becomes historical fact after it happens.

    If you want a prophecy that is to come, I could show that too.

    2 Peter 3:9-12 New International Version (NIV)
    The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

    But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

    Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.


    NOW that is not after the fact!:p
     
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  2. Subduction Zone

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    Overly vague prophecies often "come true". They are of no value. Check out the prophecies of Nostradamus.
     
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  3. MJFlores

    MJFlores Well-Known Member

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    Failed prophecies?

    Maybe people fail to predict but what is written will be fulfilled because all of the words of God will not lose its power.

    Next when people predict the time when the end of the world will happen, then that is a BIG MISTAKE and will definitely end in embarrassment to him and his followers. Next, predicting the end of the world and failing it - is the sign that they are the false prophets, giving false hopes and false news.

    How can a person predict something which even the Lord Jesus Christ does not know?
    How can a person predict something when even the angels in heaven do not know?
    What makes this persons so special over the Lord Jesus Christ and his angels?

    Matthew 24:36 New International Version (NIV)

    “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

    But of course people have the right to be stupid.

     
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    No, you merely reinterpreted a vague prophecy that could have been met by all sorts of future results.

    By its very nature it was a failed prophecy.
     
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    If you are unaware of the failed prophecies of the Bible then you have a lot of studying to do. For example there is the failed Tyre prophecy in the Old Testament. Then there was Jesus's failed prophecy of the second coming.

    I think that @sooda has a more rational Christian approach to prophecy. They are not predictions of future events, they are commentaries on the times when they were written or even of events in the past.
     
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    Even more incredibly, the James Bond books mention a country called 'England' and a city called 'London', and many people who have studied the matter are convinced there really are such places!!!!
     
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    that is a prophecy that doesn't need any interpretation whatsoever
    next I couldn't show that prophecy to you after the fact
    because you or I would be unable to read it

    It could happen tomorrow, next week, next month, next year or next decade
    but it would happen.

    so revealing [revelation] the prophecies after the fact when they have happened would be a more suitable evidence to prove the historical [as the topic starter's term] accuracy.

    For example the second seal is another historical event recorded as a prophecy in the Bible:

    Revelation 6:3-4 New International Version (NIV)
    When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.

    redhorse.jpg

    Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. This horse came out after the white horse which I have revealed in one of my post. So the event happened after the other event.

    The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims started primarily to secure control of holy sites considered sacred by both groups. In all, eight major Crusade expeditions occurred between 1096 and 1291. The bloody, violent and often ruthless conflicts propelled the status of European Christians, making them major players in the fight for land in the Middle East.
    https://www.history.com/topics/middle-ages/crusades

    This verse was written by apostle John recorded this prophecy in the Book of Revelation before 100 AD and this happened between 1096-1291 AD. History provides proof that the Bible is historically accurate and prophetic. It is too big to ignore since the event referred to is in the annals of history.


    This part
     
  8. MJFlores

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    Please elucidate me on this.o_O
     
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    In this case the events themselves prove the supernatural. But as it is not openly happening or when it does happen openly then it's covered up; it allows people to continue to deny what is obvious to some other people.
     
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    That is nonsense, and belief by the fact that different Christians have different interpretations. Making it a failed prophecy.
     
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    How so? You need more than wild claims and hand waving. And no, cover-ups do not happen that way. Conspiracies of any large number tend to fail. People talk.
     
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    which part do you not understand? The Tyre prophecy fails because we know where it is today. The Bible predicted against that. Many of the prophecies in the Bible were not prophecies since they were written after the fact. They were history written as if it were prophecy.
     
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    The views and opinions expressed by the Roman Pontiff and the various Protestant leaders [List of the largest Protestant denominations - Wikipedia], do not reflect my views and opinions. I do not subscribe to their beliefs or their interpretations. You can call them "Christians" but I do not.

    A Christian does not believe in the Trinity, does not celebrate pagan traditions like Christmas and Easter.


    Please continue, I am not familiar of your Tyre prophecy.

    Tyres, I have them attached to my car and one tucked in the trunk.:rolleyes:

     
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    You are not a valid judge on who is and who is not a Christian. In fact I bet that you believe that your God lied.

    And it is not my Tyre prophecy, it is a prophecy in the Bible. You should read it some day.
     
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    If you'll notice prior to the discovery the Canaanites were still alive, not a single Christian or church claimed that.

    "Thus Joshua struck all the land, the hill country and the Negev and the lowland and the slopes and all their kings. He left no survivor, but he utterly destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded…. He left nothing undone of all that the Lord had commanded Moses". (Josh. 10:40, 11:15)
     
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    Peter died before the Destruction of the Temple and the tribulation. He died a martyr's death in 67 AD.

    The Bible doesn't say the earth will be destroyed.

    Jeremiah 33:20-21 explains why Christ Rules from a Heavenly, Not Earthly, Throne

    Jesus calls his kingdom the kingdom of heaven throughout the Gospels.
     
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    What i find interesting here, of those posts i have read (i admit i have not read every post) there are many "christians" claiming there are other proofs that cannot be explained by historical coincidence or good authorship in including actual events, places and people to give credence to the book. But from what i have seen (correct me if i am wrong) not one iota of said evidence (in the strict definition of evidence) has been offered.
     
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    Revelation 3:21 reads, “He who conquers, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My Throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on His Throne.”

    Jesus is again depicted as a conqueror in Revelation 5:5: “The Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered so as to open the Book.” This horseman who is said to be a “conqueror bent on conquest” is Jesus Christ.

    Jesus is also the lamb.
     
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    You think the Revelation letter is false?
     
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    The futurist interpretation of Revelation was the work of a Jesuit priest right after the Protestant Reformation that was later promoted by Darby, Cyrus Scofield and Hal Lindsey among others.
     
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