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New York state finally

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Riders, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. Riders

    Riders Well-Known Member

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    I read an article that says state of New York is about to get ahold of 8, years worth of tax and finance records that could be proof of finance crimes by Trump.


    Also my sister says they have already started impeachment proceedings is this correct,?
     
  2. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    News to me. I haven't heard anything of the sort and I live in New York.

    Anyways, Chairman
    Cuomo is much too busy battling the Seneca Nation over casino revenue leaving a trek of dilapidated roadways that go through the nation's territory as a testament to the stellar relationship they have with one another.
     
  3. ImmortalFlame

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    This is true:
    Trump: New York prosecutors subpoena eight years of tax returns

    Can't find much to corroborate this.
     
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  4. Audie

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    Anyone's tax records could reveal crimes.
     
  5. 9-10ths_Penguin

    9-10ths_Penguin 1/10 Riboflavin
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    Especially people who helped the mob launder money.
     
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  7. Audie

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    The POINT, Nanook, was the deliberately misleading
    post about how it "could" reveal....
     
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  8. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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  9. Wu Wei

    Wu Wei ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson

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    Don't forget the Mario M. Cuomo bridge.

    But I have heard something about the Trump Tax thing, but they are far FAR away from getting them, it is in court
     
  10. Audie

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    And further still from finding criminality.

    I guess it is just a Chinese culture thing, that
    it is good to presume innocence until guilt is
    demonstrated?

    It may have once been an american thing, but
    it isnt any more?
     
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    Proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is the threshold for sending someone to prison, as well it should be.

    The threshold for a civil trial is "the preponderance of the evidence." Again: a good standard for that purpose.

    The threshold for merely thinking someone is a scumbag is a personal matter. Still, it makes sense for the bar to suspect a person or think less of them to be a lower bar than the one you would need to clear to take a big chunk of money away from a person in a civil suit.

    BTW: what makes you say that Trump's guilt hasn't been demonstrated?
     
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  12. Wu Wei

    Wu Wei ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson

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    Actually based solely on legal system, China is Guilty until proven innocent and the USA is innocent until proven guilty..... however, at least in the US, that does not seem to be the practice of late.
     
  13. Audie

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    I know how the freakin' legal system works.

    If you have no concern about people going about
    announcing guilt, then you do not.

    Many a life has been ruined by such behaviour,
    but not yours, so far.

    Trump's guilt in what, has been demonstrated?

    Of course, a person with a life and business
    as complex as his will have any number of infractions
    associated.

    It could be that the true north strong and free
    is more sensible than the USA. Low bar,
    I am ready to believe it is the case.

    In the USA, anyone that a govt agency decides to
    prosecute is going to be found guilty.
    8 Ways We Regularly Commit Felonies Without Realizing It
     
  14. Audie

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    Unfortunately, I know that all too well.
     
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