The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
Just stop it. You'll turn my head.
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Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
No, I mean it, I don't know what "oblivious" means, but I know it must be a compliment coming from you. Thanks.
The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
Truth be told, I don't know what it means, either.No, I mean it, I don't know what "oblivious" means, but I know it must be a compliment coming from you. Thanks.
It does have a nice ring to it, don't you agree?
Alceste
Vagabond
How do you see anything other than objectivity from the blogroll? There are both "pro" and "con" links.
It's just a list. As they say, the info on it could be used by anyone. Some Mormons will look at it and think they're not keeping up with the Joneses, so to speak, and donate more. Civil rights advocates might avoid doing business with companies listed on the database, or be annoyed if somebody they know happens to be on there, but I don't see how it's at all nefarious by design.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Where? I went back and still didn't see anything.
The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
Maybe he means that he doesn't want to subject us to having to look at it.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Nor me.
Are you linking from the original site? Try putting it on photobucket and linking from there.
You may be looking at the image in your cache or something like that. It doesn't show up for the rest of us.
Depending on the originating site's rules and Terms of Service, they may not permit this. It'd be simpler to provide a link to the original page where the image appeared anyhow.
Apex
Somewhere Around Nothing
Here's a site Disney Man posted in the LDS forum everyone might be interested in.
Mormons for Marriage » Why We as LDS Church Members Support Marriage Equality
Mormons for Marriage » Why We as LDS Church Members Support Marriage Equality
The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
Sorry Apex, but it still doesn't show up. The placeholder is there, but no photograph (or whatever it is).
Worshipper
Active Member
I think you have to be a Mormon, and thoroughly acculturated in the Mormon community at that, to see it. I don't know how to help someone who isn't a Mormon see it.
Alceste
Vagabond
Are you saying Mormons wrote the site exposing Mormons using specially coded euphemisms for persecuting Mormons that only Mormons understand?
I'm confused! :areyoucra
The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
No, no, no, Alceste. This thread is about Merman's - specifically, Ethel Merman.
Carry on.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
This is a great article, and a great video. I very much agree with the author.
Worshipper
Active Member
Something like that. Your wording (particularly "specially coded euphemisms") seems to me to imply too much agency in the whole process, but you are essentially right.
Like most subcultures, Mormondom has its own naturally-occurring semiotic codes that insiders are quite familiar with but that outsiders are oblivious to. This site's use of those codes makes it clear to an insider what side they're on.
This really isn't a rare or unusual thing at all. All segments of society have their own linguistic and other semiotic codes, and insiders always use those codes to send messages that can only be interpreted by insiders. At a broad level, English, Spanish, Arabic, Russian, and so forth are all such codes, and they are used to pass messages to insiders but are unintelligible to outsiders. But the same thing functions at narrower levels in all our lives every day.
Mr Spinkles
Mr
No, it's about transparency in our democracy and public record. If the website encouraged people to harass Mormons who donate, that would be wrong. If anyone does harass Mormons who donate, that is wrong. But disseminating public information is fine.
You know what WON'T happen to any of the people who contributed thousands of dollars to Prop 8? They won't have their marriage licenses taken away. But that will happen to 18,000 married couples in California, many of whom have children. That's not defending families, it's attacking families, and it is bigotry plain and simple.
The website demonstrates that the LDS Church's encouragement to Mormons to support Prop 8 was extremely successful. Mormons donated $14.8 million in contributions of over $1,000 each. That's nearly half of all such contributions.