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New Testament has earliest History?

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by robocop (actually), Dec 23, 2017.

  1. robocop (actually)

    robocop (actually) Well-Known Member
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    Genesis 1 covers the creation/organization of Earth and there is no general agreement about it covering a Big Bang.

    Sumerian text tells us of a "Rogue" planet entering the Solar System and slicing Earth into position while sending the Asteroid Belt the wrong way as the other effect of the Collision.

    Matthew 13:3-9

    "All this is an illusion to creating life on other planets, and three of them failed.

    I will explain it soon; it is a parable. See if you can guess what the verses might mean to me.
     
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    I dont know, but you have my curiosity.
     
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    Actually the New Testament goes back before time
    'In the beginning the word was with God and the word was God'
     
  4. robocop (actually)

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    And what is your understanding about that and Big Bang Physics? Like I said Genesis 1:1 has to be carefully considered as being about a Big Bang, and I am pretty sure it's about finding and creating life on Earth.
     
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    OK. I get to explain it now.:)
    The first creation had humans too close to the creator's planet, so they thought we were a threat and destroyed us.
    The second creation had too much noxious radiation from the Sun so life couldn't be sustained.
    The third creation, because of the humidity, had plants overrun the planet.
    Then three creations including Earth are vying for supremacy once they find each other.

    This is very scientific and predictable if you let me explain. There are also other parables about this in the New Testament if you let me explain.
     
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    It is not scientific, nor is it a good reading of the Bible. I don't see the value of trying to find hidden science in the Bible, when the Bible is not about that. It's about what it means to be a spiritual creation. The parables are about that, not secretly encoding the mysteries of science on its pages. That's a massive overread of the texts.

    Do you feel it needs to have these "secrets of science" embedded in its text, or can it survive quite well saying nothing about these things? Does it invalidate its truths of human nature, if it gets the natural sciences wrong? Does it need to be propped up by supposed magical knowledge of science, which can be read if you look at the texts just the right way, like reading tea leaves or the entrails of an owl?
     
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    Personally I don't see why Gen 1:1 would be about the big bang.
    Which big bang might you mean since the theory morphed so much since inception?
    The way God created and stretched out the world doesn't have to be the way God sustains the world.

    To quote the late RC Sproul, the big bang is like pulling a rabbit out of a hat - without the rabbit - and without the hat - and without a magician.
     
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    I don't think the Sumerians had knowledge of asteroids as such, or of the existence of other planets, rogue or otherwise.
     
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    Well Windwalker and MiltonPlatt, all I can say is that you are wrong.
     
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    LOL! :)
     
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    The sumerian ark of Gilgamesh was problematic.... as a cube it would roll over the ocean like a volleyball. I would likely not put much weight in those accounts

    But several planets turn differently, at least one retrograde and one at 90 degrees
     
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    How would you know?
     
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    A sower went forth to sew.
    The birds ate the first seeds... they have to be willing to give their creation a chance.
    The sun radiated on the next seeds... they have to be able to develop.
    Noxious weeds took over on the next... one level of life can't dominate, preventing all the others.
    Then they went 40, 70 and 100 fold... people have to be right to civilize planets or they compound their mistake.

    This explanation is scientific because it covers in order the problems with creating life on other planets both in history and in the future.
     
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