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New study shows Hydroxychloroquine cuts death rate for COVID-19 patients

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Shaul, Jul 3, 2020.

  1. Shaul

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    I think that drug was considered a failure in the liberal media from the the start because it was associated with Trump. That's how science and the media works today.

    If Trump touts it we're going to hate it.
     
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    Interesting. I think this is encouraging news. Of course all of the wonderful liberals will show up soon and enlighten us about why this well-organized, large study was somehow conducted wrong. There is a clear bias in the media against this particular drug. It is a shame that the virus has become so politicized--those on the extreme right refuse to wear masks, and those on the extreme left refuse to even consider anything contrary to the mainstream medical narrative, especially if it's something Trump endorsed. Both sides are incredibly biased.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    There's no doubt about that. they could have the complete cure and they would still reject it because it was associated with Trump.

    Oh well, all the more for the right wing!

    Bawhahah!!!
     
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    One study versus multiple studies that showed an opposite outcome? I don't know. I don't remember. I think a part of science that is a built in thingy of it is I think it addresses conflicting results and it does something about that. I think its called replicating the results.
    But maybe Im wrong. Clearly one study is all takes it prove a point regardless of what else is out there.
    I cant wait tobsee how that one is eating alive for it not being a full or true study into hydroxychloroquine but rather a mix of treatments, per the article.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    It's already a proven drug approved by the FDA. The fact that people don't want to accept that is their problem.

    I find the progress very encouraging and is among the good news that we get today in regards to the virus and a potential cure or at the very least an effective control.

    The only thing of concern would be its side effects. I guess it's a risk vs reward matter.
     
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    “We attribute our findings that differ from other studies to early treatment, and part of a combination of interventions that were done in supportive care of patients, including careful cardiac monitoring. Our dosing also differed from other studies not showing a benefit of the drug. And other studies are either not peer reviewed, have limited numbers of patients, different patient populations or other differences from our patients.”
    That basically says it all. Our results are different because everything is allegedly different. Sounds like fishing for results.
     
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    Xanax is FDA approved. It is inappropriate for 99.99999% of all conditions. Opiates are FDA approved. Those are being rethought on how we use them.
     
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    I've not seen that happen.

    What I have seen is Trump talking about it in an extremely irresponsible way, for the political gains of minimizing the risks of C19 infection. The drug might be useful, in this case. But there needed to be a large, well organized, study first. Which hadn't happened when Trump made his announcement. Which did cause people to die, if you'll recall.

    People died of aquarium cleaner overdoses because Trump's message about the usefulness of the drug wasn't clear. We can all agree that Trump's victims were stupid. But thats why it's so important for a president to be measured and informed and clear. Because stupid people are listening too.
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    No it isn't!
    This is the kind of fake news I have come to expect from Trump supporters. It is not approved for treatment of C19 by the FDA. That's simply not true.

    Tom
     
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  12. Twilight Hue

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    I'm talking approved in general. Of course it isn't approved for Covid use yet. That's why it's in clinical trials.
     
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    Well, rather like Trump, what you said wasn't true. But it was political and partisan.

    I doubt anyone takes your medical advice seriously. But Trump doesn't have that. He shouldn't be so cavalier with the reality because people do take him seriously.
    Tom
     
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    Actually I think you'll find initial tests were using the drug in later stages or with more extreme cases, and the results weren't great.

    Whilst I know it probably isn't news in the US, we've been running trials here in Australia using the drug as a preventative for high risk non-COVID patients (healthcare workers) and had enough initial success to move on to larger scale testing.

    I don't believe results of that second phase testing have been released, but here's a link.

    Hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19

    Incidentally the research organisation is a very well established and respected one here in Melbourne.
     
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    We don't associate it with Trump down here, although we do associate Trump with a few things...ahem...

    Anyways, our testing continues here, more as a way of decreasing infection rates than as a cure.
    (As per my post above)
     
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    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    Wow! That's a revelation. Could you maybe cite one or two of those aquarium cleaner death cases?
     
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    Google them for yourself.
    Tom
     
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    Man dies taking fish tank cleaner as virus remedy
     
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    Trump also suggested that people inject themselves with disinfectant. The leftist media denouncing that was just sour grapes. So what do you say, fellas? Grab your bleach and your syringes and then give those liberals the middle finger as you shoot up.
     
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    That means you simply don't know yourself. Don't blame you.

    Come to think of it, I never bothered to check myself to see if there was actually cases like that.
     
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