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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by loganonekenobi, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. loganonekenobi

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    New rule.
    If you register as Christian you can't get an abortion, you must buy your own birth control or if you really want to follow the tradition you are not allowed to have sex at all until married, you are exempt from biology classes that mention evolution or you are required to go to a christian funded school, and no matter how horrible your health is you cannot have a doctor help you end your life.
    There. I've solved the problems that america is having with this whole religious right issue.
    If you are Christian you are now required by law to follow you faiths convictions. However every one else is not and is free to enjoy the modern advances that have made us better as a species.
    The christians are now free to live their lives in St Paul's 1st century view of the world. In fact they can have their own moral police force knocking at the door to make sure all the brides remain virgins until marriage or to haul away any child that says "I hate you" to their parents.
    Yes i would even grant that as long as they post it clearly on their business advertisments, they can refuse to serve those that don't follow their faith.

    "We only serve card carrying christians sir."

    Imagine a world where hypocritical christians must answer to their own people but those who do not profess the faith answer only to the secular laws that are made based on evidence and reason of the current era. Of course, if one looks into the history of early america, one can find at least some of the results of this kind of idea.

    I cannot speak for all non-believers. I can say that at the end of the day I'm not concerned what you believe. I am concerned when your beliefs inform your vote that then affect my life and the lives of others. It's only then that I step out on these forums to debate.
     
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  2. Anthem

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    I don't understand.
     
  3. Samantha Rinne

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    Would you want Christians to mandate a law for you? The Golden Rule is in full effect, don't set rules for others if you're unwilling to also live by some rule.

    New rule. Atheists can't have children except by making them through abiogenesis because they don't believe life comes a source. No? Then shush.

    Recognize your own hypocrisy before calling others hypocritical monsters.
     
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  4. 'mud

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    Poop on a slippery slide, it's everywhere !
     
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  5. Quintessence

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    I don't either. It's almost as if the opening poster fails to recognize that Christianity is a diverse umbrella of many different religions with different teachings and practices. They also demonstrate a failure to recognize hypocrisy is universally human and hardly limited to those that they regard as "Christian."
     
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  6. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Ignorant Atheist Libertarian Capitalist
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    Is this a new rule for RF?
    You don't identify as staff, so I wonder how you got the authority to impose this rule.
    (I want to make up some rules too.)
     
  7. YmirGF

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    So, your solution is tit for tat? Yeah, that's farking brilliant.
     
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  8. Rival

    Rival Mondasian
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    This person will not be converted. We do not waste time. Mondas will throw him away.
     
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  9. Sunstone

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    Aside from the fact the OP is ridiculous to assume that all Christians are right wing Evangelicals or fundamentalists, I do wonder how many right wing Evangelicals or fundamentalists would remain so if they were forced to live by the rules they wish to impose upon society as a whole? Serious question.
     
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  10. Sanzbir

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    New rule:

    Every person who joins a religion is required to act and behave like the most cliche stereotypes of that religion. Christians must literally thump a bible at least four times a day. Muslim women must always wear Burkas. Buddhists must meditate every hour of the day.

    Nonreligious persons are not exempt either. Atheists are required to have neckbeards and fedoras (even the women) and agnostics have to act like the agnostic family from that one episode of South Park.
     
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  11. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    "Christian" doesn't necessarily imply "opposed to abortion."

    Plenty of Christian denominations aren't opposed to abortion, and many of those that are now opposed to it only took this position recently.

    For instance, the Southern Baptist Convention was largely pro-choice until the late 1970s.

    And while the Catholics have generally always been anti-abortion rights, they didn't consider early-term abortion to be "murder" until relatively recently. The Decretum Gratiani - the collection of canon law that was in effect until it was superseded in 1917 - said "he is not a murderer who brings about abortion before the soul is in the body" (...with the assumption that the soul enters at "quickening," not conception).
     
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  12. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    Reminds me of a joke about the differences between Jews, Muslims, and Baptists:

    - Jews don't recognize Muhammad as a prophet.
    - Muslims don't recognize Jesus as the Son of God.
    - Baptists don't recognize each other at the liquor store.
     
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  13. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Interestingly unless you are a pantheist polytheist you are as atheist as i am for every god but your own. There have been around 4200 gods in western recorded history, 3800(ish) of them have been "the only god, the creator' . That of course does not include the 33 million Hindu gods.

    Wise words in your last paragraph, take heed

    Edit : the word pantheist has been replaced with polytheist
     
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  14. Rival

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    Are they not allowed to drink? Since when was that a rule?
     
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    No, and that is exactly what disgusts so many people -- religious and not religious both -- about right wing Evangelicals and fundamentalist Christians in the US. They try to mandate their religious views through laws imposed on the rest of us.
     
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  16. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    How about Nuns with rulers?
     
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    Many Baptist churches prohibit drinking.

    It's been a rule long enough that there's a family story about my great-grandfather, an ardent Baptist (like most of that branch of my family tree) who died in 1920:

    They lived near a military base, so they'd get soldiers on leave in town pretty frequently. One day, as he was walking down the street, a soldier went up to my grandfather and asked "excuse me, sir - do you know where I can get a beer?"

    My great-grandfather shouted back at him "in HELL!"

    The soldier walked away confused.
     
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  18. Sanzbir

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    Where on earth are you getting those numbers??

    Pantheist or one of the "all gods of all cultures are the same one God" religions.
     
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  19. 'mud

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    Ohhh...I think that there's poop everywhere !
     
  20. ChristineM

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