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New rule: No starting any new wars until you've finished fighting all your current ones.

Discussion in 'The Political World' started by Kangaroo Feathers, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    I'm not a pacifist. I believe we need to defeat terrorists. But we also don't need to meddle in other nations affairs. Congress should develop a backbone which they're further from then ever.

    During Obama's presidency, I heard almost nothing from the right opposing his drone attacks but I did hear from pacifist liberals on the topic.

    But now complaining about Obama is justification for what? Supporting a Trump war? Bolton has a hard on to go to war with Iran. Saudi Arabia would love to see us have a nice war with them. Trump was utterly dumb to start pushing Iran into a corner that was not needed but which Israel and Saudi Arabia wanted to happen.
     
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  2. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    Pushing Iran into a corner and then complaining about the result is just about equivalent to firing first.
     
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  3. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    You don't know what shifting goal shifting means do you?

    If you did you would know it doesn't apply.
     
  4. The Reverend Bob

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    That isn't the issue of this thread so stop trying to derail
     
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  5. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    I'm on record here and elsewhere criticising Obama for his military action. You mischaracterised me, and are continuing to do so. Wishing I conformed to some imaginary strawman doesn't make it so.
     
  6. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    It's clearly a multi-party issue. Like war had suddenly become the knight on the world's chess board, jumping around here and there at the behest of its player.
     
  7. David T

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    Sheesh And i get warnings on this site for dismising bigfoot aliens built the pryamids theories by bible quacks.

    I think i just read like how many flaming posts!? Wowser folks take a chill pill. Screw it i am heading to safeway right now. biglebowski.jpg
     
  8. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    And tacitly admit to being on the wrong "side"? Never!
     
  9. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Uh huh sure thing. Can't upset the group think with free thought. Gotta keep them sheep in line!
     
  10. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Good for you then. Doesn't chang the fact your overreacting to something that hasn't even happened yet.
     
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    A multiparty practice for sure, but I doubt either thinks of it as an "issue".
     
  12. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    The US has something of a history of doing this, it must be said. Putting other countries into untenable positions, then citing the predictable responses as justification for war. It's disturbingly recognisable schoolyard bully tactics.

    I like America and Americans, but when you look at her past actions in this regard, it's kind of hard to maintain our collective sense of moral superiority (because Australia uncritically follows America's lead in these things)
     
  13. Kangaroo Feathers

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    Yes, how dare I recognise patterns and learn from history?
     
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    Once those gravy trains get rolling they're very hard to stop.
     
  15. dianaiad

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    You can always refer us to the posts in which you have condemned Obama's actions.
     
  16. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    Or you could discuss the OP rather than attempting to well poison me, relying on the forums' buggy search function.

    Where Do You Think The Turmoil In Venezuela Is Going
    Liberal only: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Is Getting Her Own Comic Book
    Faith + Patriotism = Winning Combo
    Do you believe that Donald trump is telling the truth
    Hillary applauds 11 year old kid for taking a knee.
    Trump is a dangerous idiot
    Lauren Southern makes it into Australia

    And I'll say again right here that Obama did plenty to be critical of, I personally find his use of drone warfare and executive kill lists particularly outrageous, and have done so ever since they were made public.

    Handwave as you see fit.
     
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  17. Enoch07

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    Nothing wrong with that but no need to worry that much about it. People actw the same way when N.Korea was running its mouth a year or so ago. No war came from that. So it's worth noting that Trump looks for other ways to resolve issues than using war, he has prove that already.
     
  18. Kangaroo Feathers

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    You'll note I was one of the people saying North Korea wasn't a threat at the time everyone else was running around like panicked headless chickens over it. Ditto ISIS.
     
  19. Kangaroo Feathers

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  20. Subduction Zone

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    Wars can be very easy to start and very hard to end. ISIS appeared largely due to how Obama ended the war in Iraq.
     
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