New Policy about DIR and 'Only' Forums

[Rival]

A whole day?

This is xenforo

But yeah, you may want to contact an admin about that.

 

[Secret Chief]

This is xenforo

But yeah, you may want to contact an admin about that.

Ok ta. Er....admins... I'm only finding "Staff." Give us a clue

 

[Rival]

Ok ta. Er....admins... I'm only finding "Staff." Give us a clue

They're red.

Mods are blue.

 

[Milton Platt]

As of today there's been some changes to how DIR and 'Only' forums will function. We've made a single line change to Rule 10 as follows:

"10. Debating in Non-debate Forums or Posting in DIR/ONLY Forums
Religious forums is structured to provide spaces for many different kinds of conversations. Different kinds of conversations belong in different areas of the forum:

1) Debates should be kept to the debate areas of the forums, including Religious Debates, General Debates, and Political Debates. Debating anywhere other than these forums may result in moderation. Same Faith Debates is governed by special rules described here. Only members of the specified groups(s) can participate in these threads.

2) All DIR (Discuss Individual Religions) forums are for the use of members who identify with those groups or practices. Debating is not permitted in DIRs; debates between members of specified groups should be posted in Same Faith Debates. A member may select up to a maximum of three (3) DIRs with which they identify. A member may change their selection of DIRs at any time, but the total number of DIRs selected must never exceed three (3). Members who do not identify with a DIR group may only post respectful questions; we recommend creating a thread in the Religions Q&A instead where there is more freedom to comment. DIR forums are not to be used as a cover to bash others outside of the DIR group.

3) The Political World forum has several "only" subforums that are for the use of members who identify with those political leanings. Members who do not identify with those political leanings are not allowed to post there."

The above in red has been changed to "Members who do not identify with a DIR group may not post in that DIR section;"

This change better reflects the current system of DIR selection.

In addition, we've made some changes to the 'Only' sections such as Capitalist, Communist, Conservative, Liberal Only sections to make them behave more like the DIR sections. This is to limit accidental postings. To post in these sections you must now select them just like DIR sections. Please be aware that sometimes permissions do not update automatically and there may be a delay between selecting and gaining the posting privileges to that section.
Additionally, ""Only" subforums are not to be used as a cover to bash others outside of the "Only" group" has been added to the end of 3).

As a reminder, you can select DIR by going to "Personal Details" in your user profile. Please only select up to three DIR that best reflect your views, as well as any 'Only' selection that best reflects your own views.

If possible, please display DIR, Only< etc. in red bold in all headers, etc. I have mistakenly posted in those several times when I should have not. I do not want to purposely be a dick.

 

[sun rise]

I've never noticed you calling yourself "libertarian".

I've written that I'd be a libertarian if humanity was more evolved and I've noted with approval libertarian socialism. And I've advocated a great deal of personal behavior libertarian ideas but not limited-regulation capitalism.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've written that I'd be a libertarian if humanity was more evolved and I've noted with approval libertarian socialism. And I've advocated a great deal of personal behavior libertarian ideas but not limited-regulation capitalism.

IOW, you don't identify as one.

I need a "not one of us" chant.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So, I am listed for "Abrahamic Religion DIR." Should I assume that this says nothing about my access to its sub (and its 17 sub-sub) forums, and that I should, instead, select up to three of the latter? If so, how might I make that election?

 

[Rival]

So, I am listed for "Abrahamic Religion DIR." Should I assume that this says nothing about my access to its sub (and its 17 sub-sub) forums, and that I should, instead, select up to three of the latter? If so, how might I make that election?

Hi Jay,

I'm not quite grasping what you mean here , could you rephrase this? Thanks.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Hi Jay,

I'm not quite grasping what you mean here , could you rephrase this? Thanks.

Sure.

I am listed for "Abrahamic Religion DIR." But this is a parent forum containing subforums as well as its own threads. Yes?

So, by being granted access to the "Abrahamic Religion DIR," do I pick up access to its six subforums and, by extension, their combined seventeen sub-subforums? Or does my permission extend only to those threads posted in the Abrahamic Religion DIR parent directory?

 

[Rival]

Sure.

I am listed for "Abrahamic Religion DIR." Bit this is a parent forum containing subforums as well as its own threads. Yes?

So, by being granted access to the "Abrahamic Religion DIR," do I pick up access to its six subforums and, by extension, their combined seventeen sub-subforums? Or does my permission extend only to those threads posted in the Abrahamic Religion DIR parent directory?

I see what you mean now.

No, you have access to only,
(1) the subforum that fits your religion (in your case, Jewish)
and
(2) the parent Abrahamic DIR, which is for all Abrahamics to have discussions amongst themselves.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Have you never posted in DIR by mistake....I have. So a color code would have been useful.
I saw the topic and it interested me, so posted without thinking....

Was it a while back? Now they have the ATTENTION sign at the top of the DIRs.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I see what you mean now.

No, you have access to only,
(1) the subforum that fits your religion (in your case, Jewish)
and
(2) the parent Abrahamic DIR, which is for all Abrahamics to have discussions amongst themselves.

Thanks.

So, for this to work, ...

• I must list my religion in such a way as to unambiguously point to one of the subdirectories, and

I get access to all of the latter's subdirectories, i.e.,

• Conservative,
• Hasidic,
• Humanistic,
• Orthodox,
• Reconstructionist, and
• Reform.

Yes?

 

[Rival]

• I must list my religion in such a way as to unambiguously point to one of the subdirectories, and

Yes.

I get access to all of the latter's subdirectories, i.e.,

• Conservative,
• Hasidic,
• Humanistic,
• Orthodox,
• Reconstructionist, and
• Reform.

You raise a good point. Before, you would have been allowed respectful questions but since the change I'm not sure so I'm not going to give you a wrong answer. I'm going to report this and ask the rest of the staff.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Yes.


You raise a good point. Before, you would have been allowed respectful questions but since the change I'm not sure so I'm not going to give yo a wrong answer. I'm going to report this and ask the rest of the staff.

One problem I see is that of checking "Abrahamic Religion DIR" and then having subforum access implied based on the religion I list. What if I write down something ambiguous like "YHWH"? You folks shouldn't be burdened with figuring out what the heck that might entail.

 

[Rival]

One problem I see is that of checking "Abrahamic Religion DIR" and then having subforum access implied based on the religion I list. What if I write down something ambiguous like "YHWH"? You folks shouldn't be burdened with figuring out what the heck that might entail.

We are working on this behind the scenes. Our current policy is that unless the person's religion is listed unambiguously we moderate as a rule 10. We simply don't have the time to check with everyone what his religion is. It's not perfect at all hence why we're desperately trying to work through this.

 

[Sunstone]

I'm not ignoring it, I'm commenting (not in a DIR) about my reaction to it. That is all. Not whining, not complaining, not getting in anybody else's DIR --and not debating -- just discussing my thoughts on something posted in a discussion forum. I haven't said DIRs are wrong. I've merely said they aren't for me.

Thanks for the clarification. I genuinely appreciate it.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Thanks.

So, for this to work, ...

• I must list my religion in such a way as to unambiguously point to one of the subdirectories, and

I get access to all of the latter's subdirectories, i.e.,

• Conservative,
• Hasidic,
• Humanistic,
• Orthodox,
• Reconstructionist, and
• Reform.

Yes?

We've discussed it and we've decided right now to keep it at an honor system, like the private forums. If you feel like it fits with your beliefs, post. If others disagree, they can report and we will evaluate as necessary.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

We've discussed it and we've decided right now to keep it at an honor system, like the private forums. If you feel like it fits with your beliefs, post. If others disagree, they can report and we will evaluate as necessary.

You guys are the best.