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New letter warning about global warming signed by over 15,000 scientists

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
We get it. You have no respect for tens of thousands of people who have spent their whole careers studying something you have never even begun to study and who know far more about it than you do. We get it, and it speaks volumes.

It's funny how some people can be so adamantly anti-science, yet have no qualms using the fruits of science (medicine, technology, etc.)
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
What evidence do you have the global warming is true other than a pig pile of scientists and a mountain of **** they wrote about it.

It's funny how you're skeptical of something that's been thoroughly studied with an insurmountable mountain of evidence, yet you believe that 9/11 was in inside job and that the Pope is out to take over the world by magically combining all of the worlds religions and political ideologies under one umbrella, despite being completely incompatible with one another, and that the whole world would follow some guy in a silly hat just because.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Yes, all things come to an end, yet you still wouldn't chug poison. Why is that?

Your cray cray! We ingest poison everyday. Whiskey is my poison, but heck even too much water can kill ya. Clean, pure, deionozed distilled water that has nothing else in it. Drink too much and you will poison yourself and die.

Water intoxication - Wikipedia
 
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Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
I fail to see how signing a letter is going to do anything. The recent submerging of islands in the Pacific indicates that we are now past the point of no return. Jurassic part two - here we come!
What? What is this about island submerging and points of no return?
 

corynski

Reality First!
Premium Member
Those who understand the concepts of population exponential growth and resource depletion can make the necessary conclusions, and its certainly not encouraging. Google Guy McPherson for the definitive statement of this situation, and his website 'Nature Bats Last'...... He also discusses the significance of the melting of nearly all the Arctic Ice, an unprecedented event in earth's history.
'Civilization is a heat engine' is his definitive statement.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I think we all know how it works. You're not that naive are you?
Yes, I know how it works.

Oil companies and the like have lots of money.
They put lots of funds into their chosen candidate (Usually GOP)
They pay unscrupulous scientists to write non reviewed op-eds
Their candidate then lobbies for relaxing of laws on pollution backed by the dodgy scientists
Global warming continues and the rich are happy.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What evidence do you have the global warming is true other than a pig pile of scientists and a mountain of **** they wrote about it.

You're just seeking evidence now? And doing so on an Internet discussion forum? Why? It's not the best place to learn about this matter, and you seem to already be pretty firm in your position without that knowledge.

Global warming is already occurring. It's a fact, not a prediction. What remains to be seen is the extent of the damage and its timeline.

You're 49 years old according to your personal stats, so you might or might not have grandchildren. Do you (or would you) have the strength of your convictions to share your position with your present or future grandchildren? Would you be willing to go on record with them, and eventually though them, with their grandchildren, as having being a climate denier back in the early 21st century?

You don't need to answer that question, but you might want to think about the what implications are if you realize that you would have misgiving about that.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Much like so many of those on the religious right who bastardize science so they can ignore the basic ToE, we see so many on the political right who bastardize science by ignoring the research and overwhelming scientific consensus on climate change. Frankly, I think it's less about ignorance than it is intellectual dishonesty-- they don't want to know, so they either ignore the massive amount of info or they turn to one of their right-wing sites and parrot their nonsense.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
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Father Heathen

Veteran Member

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
That, and a bunch random, witless yokels obviously don't quite have the same level of credibility that actual scientists do when it comes to science.
And by far the largest single group signing the petition were engineers. What I didn't see in it was in regards to party affiliation if any, which obviously might make quite a difference.
 
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