SkepticThinker
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In this case it is.
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SkepticThinker
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Hilarious.
Of course they're in society already. They always have been. Like gay people.
You don't seem to know what being in the closet is all about.
SkepticThinker
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That's what you think coming out of the closet means?
Laniakea
Not of this world
Only to those who don't require evidence to believe an assertion. IOW, low information types.
Laniakea
Not of this world
It's about being wise to not share TMI.
Laniakea
Not of this world
The whole "in the closet" thing is a liberal talking point meant to promote victim identity.
SkepticThinker
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LOL The person you were conversing confirmed it by actually typing it and pointing out that you didn't address their point.
You're playing silly games again.
SkepticThinker
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No. It's an actual real thing that human beings have experienced for a few centuries at least. Coming out of the closet has/does actually put human beings in real danger of being harmed.
Read a history book or two. Or look around the world today where there are still countries that murder people just for being gay.
Good grief.
Laniakea
Not of this world
The USA isn't one of those countries. Murder has laws against it, with enhanced protections if done to a gay person (or any number of other protected issues).
SkepticThinker
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Almost everywhere was "on of those countries" at one time or another. Some in more recent history than others ...
Across most states, it was a crime to be gay up until like the 1960s and it was perfectly fine to discriminate against them on the basis of their sexual orientation. Before (and during) this time, "gay bars" were continually raided by police and gay people were beaten and arrested as "sexual deviants." Imagine trying to come out publicly as gay in such a climate as this.
Homosexuality was classified as a mental illness in the US all the way up until 1973.
Gay marriage was not legalized in the US until 2015.
And look at the hate they still get to this day, from certain religious groups.
So, in summary, coming out of the closet has historically actually put human beings in real danger of being harmed.
Look up the Stonewall Rising:
"By 1969, the Stonewall Inn (now a national monument) was one of the most popular gay bars in New York City. Throughout the state, homosexuality was considered a criminal offense, and it would take over a decade of organizing before "same-sex relationships" were legalized in 1980 (New York v. Onofre). The criminalization of homosexuality led many gay establishments to operate sans liquor license, providing an open door for raids and police brutality. Like many gay establishments at the time, the Stonewall Inn was owned by the mafia, and as long as they continued to make a profit, they cared very little what happened to their clientele. Because the owners were still making a profit, they simply adjusted to the raids, and were often tipped off about them ahead of time.The Stonewall was raided on average once a month leading up to the raid on June 28, 1969 (Martin Duberman,Stonewall p. 187), and had been raided once already that same week. The Stonewall was also not the only bar in town being frequently raided. “… In the last three weeks five gay bars in the Village area that I know of have been hit by the police” (The Summer of Gay Power and the Village Voice Exposed, COME OUT, 1969). Police raids and harassment were a common occurrence across the U.S. during this time, and amid the growing political activism of the 1960s,LGBTQ+ people began to mobilize and fight back."
Research Guides: LGBTQIA+ Studies: A Resource Guide: 1969: The Stonewall Uprising
The collections of the Library of Congress tell the rich and diverse story of LGBTQ+ life in America and around the world. This research guide serves as an introduction into the excellent collection of LGBTQ+ resources available at the Library of Congress
guides.loc.gov
See? Coming out of the closet was a potentially very dangerous thing for gay people in the United States up until fairly recently.
There are still countries around the world where coming out of the closet is a death sentence.
Because of people like you.
Laniakea
Not of this world
In what way?
PS: Be careful about making derogatory comments about members.