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new boycott target: liberal radio host Mike Malloy

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by pwfaith, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. pwfaith

    pwfaith Active Member

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    Thoughts on Mike Molloy's comments?
     
  2. dyanaprajna2011

    dyanaprajna2011 Dharmapala

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    His 'sentiment' is sickening. I would agree that attributing anything to god is unintelligent, being an atheist, and I've asked Christians where was their god in all of this, but this is just outright nonsense. There's a difference between a liberal looking at a natural disaster and using it as a backdrop to question the existence of god, and just outright blaming the victims for the events. Somebody needs to kick this guy around a little bit.
     
  3. Skwim

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    Thoughts? Sure

    First of all, may as well include all the words in the excerpt.

    "Their God, if this is the way they want to look at it, keeps smashing them into little grease spots on the pavement, in Alabama, in Mississippi, Arkansas, Georgia and Oklahoma, you know the bible belt.. where they ain’t gonna let no g*dd*mn science get in the way, it says in the bible blah blah blah, so according to their way of thinking, y’know, God with his omnipotent thumb, REACHES DOWN HERE, and so far tonight, has smashed so far 20 people on highway 12, or whatever the hell highway they live next to.. IT'S SO SAD. IT'S JUST SO SAD FOR THIS KIND OF NON-SENSE . . . .
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    Second, we have absolutely no idea of the context here. Quote mining like this almost criminal. If you want to demonize liberals you'll have to do a lot better than this.
     
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  4. dyanaprajna2011

    dyanaprajna2011 Dharmapala

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    I had never even heard of him before, so I looked him up. Seems he is a pretty vile creature. I'm surprised I've never come across his name before.
     
  5. 9-10ths_Penguin

    9-10ths_Penguin 1/10 Subway Stalinist
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    I think his comments sound rather tactless, but consistent with the idea that God's in control of things in the world.

    I mean take this bit from the quoted article:

    If we take a "miracle" as direct intervention by God, then this implies that God was actively deciding who should live and die that day. Even if he "saved" this girl, he didn't save her parents though he could have. He also didn't prevent her from being harmed, even though he could have.

    I think there's a certain cognitive dissonance in the point of view that looks at an event like this and concludes "miracle!"
     
  6. T-Dawg

    T-Dawg Self-appointed Lunatic

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    From what I've heard about him, he seems pretty cool. Reminds me of myself, almost. Of course, there's probably things I don't know about him.


    As for the specific subject of the thread, it's already been shown that the quote was taken out of context. Shame on the person who wrote the original article.
     
  7. waitasec

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    i have a question.

    why didn't you finish the quote?
     
  8. dyanaprajna2011

    dyanaprajna2011 Dharmapala

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    The original article came from a conservative website that was upset about people making a fuss over Limbaugh.
     
  9. pwfaith

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    Video clip of voice transcript:

    Prog Radio Host Mike Malloy Mocks Tornado Victims: “Their God Keeps Smashing Them Into Little Grease Spots” [Audio]

    FTR I have no problem with his view of God, although I find it incorrect theology, but that's not the debate. I find the way he presented his arguement to be completely insensisitive and disgusting by talking about people being smashed little grease spots on the pavement, so soon after the tragedies of the tornadoes. I think if he wanted to question "where was God" there was a much better way to do it.
     
  10. Storm

    Storm ThrUU the Looking Glass

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    OK, I admit I'm not exactly up on pop culture, much less talk radio, but I'd never even heard of Malloy before this thread. That makes a difference in outrage levels, fair or not.
     
  11. dyanaprajna2011

    dyanaprajna2011 Dharmapala

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    I can't disagree with that.
     
  12. waitasec

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    would it have been easier for you to have him say, smashed into smithereens?
     
  13. Skwim

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    Mike Malloy Replies.
    "During my program last Friday night, I commented on the potential for destruction caused by the tornadoes that were moving through the south with historic fury.

    First and foremost, I sincerely apologize for the inflammatory language that I used, and for the anger and pain that came as a result of my comments.

    Those comments, as published on various blog sites, were lifted out of context from a larger point I was making about the hypocrisy of many political leaders and commentators who refuse to acknowledge science, logic and fact in assessing disasters such as this one.

    That said, my language was unnecessarily harsh in light of the lives that would be lost later that evening. I have nothing but the most heartfelt sympathy for those families who were devastated by those tragic storms.

    I will say again I am sincerely sorry for the pain and anger my comments evoked. I made a mistake, I was wrong, and I will not let it happen again.

    Mike
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    Please note the "Those comments, as published on various blog sites, were lifted out of context from a larger point I was making about the hypocrisy of many political leaders and commentators who refuse to acknowledge science, logic and fact in assessing disasters such as this one."

    Contrast this with Rush Limbaugh's chowder-headed "apology" which, while similar, misses the whole point of his offensive misunderstanding of the importance and uses of birth control.
    "For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

    I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit? In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone's bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.

    My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."
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    As explained by J. Bryan Lowder on XXfactor
    "[Georgetown Law School student Sandra] Fluke’s own testimony was not about her sex life, but rather the painful experience of watching a friend who was forced to have an ovary removed because she couldn’t afford the pill, which, of course, has many medical uses aside from contraception. Many women depend on birth control, not for “social activities,” but for their basic health. And it is in light of his abject ignorance of female biology that Limbaugh’s willingness to demean a woman becomes truly outrageous. This apology only brings that ignorance into sharper relief."
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    Your point wasn't clear for your OP. You asked for thoughts on his comment... well, my thought was that he spoke to a valid point in a less than tactful way.

    Although when I think about it, his language was no more graphic than many parts of the Bible: "happy is he who dashes children on the rocks", etc.

    Considering that, I find a Christian backlash to his comments strange. I mean, if they accept that language in other contexts, it suggests to me that their real problem is with his portrayal of God as the bad guy.
     
  15. Skwim

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    The backlash was just an attempt to paint some liberal, didn't matter whom, with the same brush Limbaugh painted himself. Although a failed attempt on several levels, at least it's an amusing one.
     
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    Why bother with boycotting liberal talk radio? Liberal talk radio fails miserably, except when they use taxpayers' dollars.
     
  17. tytlyf

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    Nothing wrong with what he said. Conservatives are grasping at straws.

    Be careful where you get your information from, Fox 'news' loves to spin and manipulate stories.
     
  18. Valjean

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    I hear him all the time. He angers easily, he's rude and talks over callers, but in this case he's not insulting the victims so much as mocking faith itself and the idea that God protects His faithful.

    What irks the conservatives is the irreverence, which they equate with immorality.
     
  19. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    Why are you defending him? People died. Families were decimated. Life savings were wiped outy. Commuities were ruined. So ...
    Let's ridicule their faith.​
    WTF!
     
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