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Featured New Atheists?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Policy, Jan 12, 2022.

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  1. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Leaderless Animal

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    No reason at all, the link was simply to show the origin of the term.
     
  2. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    You!!! Now follows a lot of words that will get me banned.
    So here is the short version. Your crutch is that you believe that you are better than other humans, but you have no science for that. Now report me or don't. But you just proved one of the points against New Atheism. That is sometimes for small people, who try to hide their own crutches by mocking others for having one too. I too have a crutch. Now what?
     
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  3. cOLTER

    cOLTER Well-Known Member

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    The truth isn't a practice, it just is. We can acknowledge that the truth exists and search for it with a whole heart or deny it and eventually become unreal in an increasingly spiritual universe.
     
  4. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Yeah, I just use a different methodology than you.
     
  5. Audie

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    It is the incapacity to grasp the fact that
    not everyone has a " god shaped hole".

    SINCE, by such figuring, we really do believe in God, or at least sense this emptiness, we strive to fill the void with sinful living, making ourselves god, etc.

    And, of course, are thus just like them, but in
    sinful rebellion, and they can gaze down on
    us fools from their lofty righteousness.

    While. BTW, speaking of their selfless abandonment of ego.
     
  6. Audie

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    Too clever by one half, in that nobody remotely
    suggested otherwise.

    Inability to comprehend where the limits are is
    the prob called irrationality.
     
  7. mikkel_the_dane

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    We really really are the real humans, we the atheists. I mean I can use science to show evidence for the fact that I am real and they are not. ;)

    So you and I are just 2 different kinds of atheism, though that is somehow really wrong. ;)
     
  8. mikkel_the_dane

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    That applies to all human behavior including reason, logic and evidence and not just all other behavior.
     
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  9. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    I used to think that when I was a theist.

    They are still around. Closest to New atheists I can find.
     
  10. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    "New atheism" is just a lable applied to people who, over the last few decades, have decided to speak up and talk about their views on some of the harms that religions can do -- and most assuredly have done.

    In that sense, although I've been an atheist as long as I've been consciously considering "God," I am something of a new atheist. I began really talking about my doubts about religion in the 1990's, and have been growing more certain that religion -- overall -- is a force for holding back the progress of human-kind towards being a species able to live together, sustainably, on the only home we can have, so far as we know, yet.
     
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  11. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle 'Some of you humans are just so funny!'
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    I'm a naturally cheerful person. :(
     
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  12. mikkel_the_dane

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    Fair enough. But science can't do it alone. You in effect need faith in a value system. It doesn't have to be supernatural, but it has to be more than just science and will be some kind of nature/humanistic religion in effect.
     
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    Your country was built by Religious dissenters, yes. The Plymouth brethren seem to have been quite a sincere and idealistic bunch, but probably an absolute pain in the arse to be around. Back in England, people soon got tired of Cromwell’s Puritan government, and Protestantism never really captured the soul of the CoE.
     
  14. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    Afaik it’s always been the same,there’s nothing “new” about it,I don’t believe what your saying unless you can prove it,simplified of course.
     
  15. Policy

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    Ah yes. The mouthy atheists who do not know their place. :D
     
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  16. lukethethird

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    New Atheists?
    Where were the so called New Atheists when I was growing up in the 60's, when I was forced to go to church every week?
    I could have used them then.
     
  17. mikkel_the_dane

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    Yeah, that must have been hard. But what does that actually have to do with New Atheists as New Atheists?
     
  18. 9-10ths_Penguin

    9-10ths_Penguin 1/10 Subway Stalinist
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    You think that people like Dawkins are "radical fundamentalists"?

    The theistic equivalent of Richard Dawkins isn't Pat Robertson; it's the slightly-liberal Anglican minister who, if people were going to fault him for anything, it would be for being too boring.

    If you don't believe me, grab a random sermon transcript from a moderate, liberal Christian denomination in praise of faith, then - without making the language any more emotionally charged - switch the wording so that it's speaking against faith instead of in favour of it. The result will likely be something more extreme than any speech that Dawkins ever gave.
     
  19. Nakosis

    Nakosis Time Efficient Lollygagger
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    Well, what else do theist have to attack other than this nefarious band of folks who basically make a living by being atheists?

    They make controversial statements to sale books, get on TV and invited to lectures. Basically the Clickbait Atheists' Club.
    Few are going to buy your books if you aren't out their making controversial statements. So they are just following a successful business model.

    I don't see it making a lot of sense trying to defend against an advertising campaign. If you actually read their books, I find they are not really that controversial.
    The new atheist is the same as the old atheist except with a marketing agenda.
     
  20. Father Heathen

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    My guess is because those who get their panties bunched up over them tend to be American.
     
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