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Featured New Atheists?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Policy, Jan 12, 2022.

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  1. firedragon

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    How is that? Im curious.
     
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    Many do. Most of them in this forum are atheists. Strangely though.
     
  3. Mock Turtle

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    Lion's den and all that. :D

    Perhaps we have more courage to take on alternative views?
     
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    Maybe mice who like to pretend like lions. Make some people feel good. :)
     
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    Find the term a bit confusing as well. Personally I like to use the two different types of atheistic views and then add anti theists, which might be what is meant with the new atheism.

    Hard / Strong atheism - Atheists that are convinced that no deities exists.

    Soft / weak atheism - Those that don't believe in gods, but are not closed to the idea that such could exist, but that there is not enough evidence to hold such believe.

    Anti theist - Which to me is more of an addon to the above, meaning you can be a strong or weak atheist and also be an anti theist.
     
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    I need something better to make me feel good. :D
     
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    Well, yes. I get that also as an atheist. But that is not the only thing going on. It is a bit more complex that good atheists and bad theists or so in reverse.

    So here is how I do it. I try to find out if a theist is a friendly theist and what I can learn. If a non-friendly theist speaks up, I might say something. But I am not just here for that. I am here for the fact that we are several cultures and different religion and I am still learning.
    I am also here, because as an atheist I am supposed to speak up against other atheists, when they claim they have the correct answers and they don't.
    That is what atheists demand of the tribe of religious people, so I do it to my tribe, because that is what we are supposed to do,
    Right, ChristeneM? Always as rational and with evidence explain the world! That is what makes us atheists and sets us apart from the other tribe.:)
     
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    Old atheists aren't enough???
     
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    If you have to support something in order to think it's worth talking about, someone really ought to tell all the environmentalists on forums about climate change.
     
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    Yeah, though sometimes we do act as an "in-group".
     
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    Several authors got on best-seller lists with books that were critical of religion around the same time.

    This led people who've never read people like Bertrand Russell, Robert Green Ingersoll, and Thomas Huxley to think they were seeing a brand new movement.

    I think that's all this is.
     
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    Try this. Always works for me...


     
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    Religions need leaders, so i suppose the
    followers figure everyone needs a leader.
    Even calling atheism a religion.

    So, maybe they figure these " new atheists" are
    leaders?
    After seeung Dawkins dawkinsdawkins from theists i tried to read one of his books.
    Boring obvious stuff.
     
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    I wonder who reads those books?
     
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    Perhaps my favourite:

     
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    Perhaps more of some recognising a tolerant forum where one might not be banned because of one's views rather than anything else, and which might not be the case on so many others?
     
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    Exactly! Thats why we call aggressive Atheism a kind of religion itself, the doctrines of doubt.
     
  18. mikkel_the_dane

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    Well, I am a skeptic and all I have is faith. It is just different than yours. So yes, doubt led me to faith,
     
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    Only by the irrational.
     
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  20. mikkel_the_dane

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    Evidence with science as per authority. No kitchen table philosophy. Just science! You know the drill. We are not a cocktail party and you are not entertaining the guests. So with your cultural authority do your thing.
     
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