Nazi-Terrorists shock Germany

Flankerl · Nov 17, 2011

I dont even know where to start. Perhaps you've seen something about it on TV or read about it.

The Nationalsozialistischer Untergrund/Nationalsocialist Underground(NSU)

On the 4th November a bank was robbed after which the police found the two bank robbers shot dead inside their/a burning caravan.

In that caravan they found a handgun thats been missing for four years. In 2007 a police woman was shot in the head and her partner wounded.

The story could end here but it doesnt.
The very same day an apartment exploded. This was probably caused by their accomplice Beate Z.

In that apartment the police found weapons related to a series of murders targeted on foreigners from 2000 till 2006.
They also found evidence on the nailbomb attack of 2004 in Köln.
On top of that they found a video where they claimed responsibility of the series of murders.
On top of that they found an USB-stick with the names of 88 members of the german parliament as possible targets.

That may all be quite bad but it gets worse.
They found so called legal illegal-papers issued by the Verfassungsschutz. Such papers get issued to people who work for the Verfassungsschutz. Why were they in the hands of a Nazi terrorist group?
On top of that it seems that an officer of the hessian Verfassungsschutz was at a crime scene at the very moment a murder happened.

The accomplice Beate Z. turned herself in on the 13th November after the police searched her for 4 days.
Also the police arrested Holger G. who seems to be a supporter of the group. He was observed by the Lower-Saxon Verfassungsschutz but only for a short time.

Now the german politicians react as usual and they want to ban the NPD, again.
Because as we all know if you ban a party their ideology just vanishes. Magic! :facepalm:

Also the turkic community goes a little bit crazy over this. Some claim that the police/states are discriminatory towards foreigners. Some even claim that the police doesnt care about dead foreigners. Which is a bit weird since the police also didnt find the murderers of the female police officer.

And some people come to a sudden realisation. Nazis arent only stupid skinheads. No! They could also be rather not stupid people who you wouldnt suspect of being a Nazi.
Who would have thought!

Perhaps i forgot something... not sure.

not nom · Nov 18, 2011

well look at it this way, that they got caught now is actually good news too, no?

Flankerl said:
Germany plans registry of neo-Nazis after killing spree | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 17.11.2011

The case has also revived the debate about banning the right-wing National Democratic Party (NPD), after a previous attempt to do so was struck down by Germany's highest court in 2003. The court ruled at the time that the presence of informants paid by the intelligence agency inside the party blurred the lines of responsibility, undermining the culpability of the organization.

But according to German daily Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger, there are now up to 100 informants in the NPD today, significantly more than in 2003, when 15 percent of the party's members were informants.

not that I don't agree, of course banning the NPD wouldn't magically make everything better... but still, wtf are they doing?! bleh.

Terrywoodenpic · Nov 18, 2011

From that summary. some neo- Nazis are now dead. However I can not believe that is more than the tip of an iceberg.
Why are they dead? who wanted them dead? who does it benefit them being dead? were they a liability to the organisation and so removed? Was the purpose to prevent other people being exposed? The Neo-Nazis have always been an dangerous, well connected and lethal mix of almost religious fervour and brutish organisation.
I am sure we have not heard the last of them.

As they say a little blood letting clears the head.

Flankerl · Nov 21, 2011

not nom said:
well look at it this way, that they got caught now is actually good news too, no?

Depends. Germans tend to overhype such topics way out of proportions so this is going to be the major topic for the next half year.

not nom said:
not that I don't agree, of course banning the NPD wouldn't magically make everything better... but still, wtf are they doing?! bleh.

I think its funny the way they handle their informants.
If the nazis are stupid then the people at the Verfassungsschutz are probably the most stupid people in the history of mankind.

But i mean its genius. You are a nazi and get approached by someone of the Verfassungsschutz. He offers you a deal, give him information and get money. Okay.
But now the problem is that the nazi is way too intelligent for the people of the V. He now takes their money and warns his people about every major raid or investigation of the V.

You wouldnt expect this level of stupidity of them.

Also its really unclear how those two guys shot eachother several times inside their caravan.
And its interesting to see how ****** politicians are. For all those years they didnt gave a **** about those dead people. But now that it seems clear that the murderers were Nazis the politicians suck up to them, visit the crime scenes and even talk to their relatives.

Keep it cool guys, the election is (probably) in 2013 not next year.

not nom · Nov 21, 2011

Flankerl said:
Depends. Germans tend to overhype such topics way out of proportions so this is going to be the major topic for the next half year.

haha, I know right?! ^^ no matter what happens, it's kinda always the same.

Also its really unclear how those two guys shot eachother several times inside their caravan.

I'm sure there's plenty of conspiracy theories about that, none of them any good

And its interesting to see how ****** politicians are. For all those years they didnt gave a **** about those dead people. But now that it seems clear that the murderers were Nazis the politicians suck up to them, visit the crime scenes and even talk to their relatives.

oh, what a surprise. I guess it would be a shame to let it go to waste.

Keep it cool guys, the election is (probably) in 2013 not next year.

the early poser bags the election -.-

Aniihya · Feb 13, 2012

The German media sees it worse when Nazis kill 9 or so Turks in 13 years than when the RAF killed over 40 within 20. I would say, the country where I was born in and grew up in is growing dumber at an alarming rate, almost as quickly as the US.

MARCELLO · Sep 17, 2015

The Nazism towards to jews is outlawed in Germany,you cannot even make jokes about pogroms or holocaust. I have friends of non jewish stock who wear yarmulke just not to be stopped by the traffic police in Frankfurt when they are drunk...

Flankerl · Sep 17, 2015

MARCELLO said:
The Nazism towards to jews is outlawed in Germany,you cannot even make jokes about pogroms or holocaust. I have friends of non jewish stock who wear yarmulke just not to be stopped by the traffic police in Frankfurt when they are drunk...

I see Hashem is really testing me during the 10 days.

MARCELLO · Sep 17, 2015

Flankerl said:
I see Hashem is really testing me during the 10 days.

This is nothing ,you have to count for lag omer ,besides

Nazi-Terrorists shock Germany

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