Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.... Yeah!
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My theory on the universe and God
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Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.... Yeah!
Skwim
Veteran Member
If it matters, Christian sources say otherwise.
Isaiah 45:7
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
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slipknot0129
New Member
Way I look at it, if the universe was uncaring, I'd be born as a bug and never born again. Yet the universe is caring and gave me a soul.
What's wrong with bugs? They are part of the same whole.
Bugs DON'T have souls????
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What you're saying is that, if somehow the universe did not "care" for you, you would've been born as a different animal? Because that's what we are. Animals.
I do not buy this "the universe loves us" nonsense. The universe has no "will". It just is. It has no more care for you or anything else. In that way, it is better than being "loving" or whatever, because this way it is fair.
slipknot0129
New Member
Bugs don't have souls.
Who told you that?
VioletVortex
Well-Known Member
I think that the universe, from a spiritual point of view, is a composite of various different spiritual forces. By this, I mean that under the material layer of the universe, there is a "spiritual fabric" consisting of various different spiritual forces or entities. Some of these could be described as "pure care" while others could be described as "pure hate". Some forces are in fact composites of multiple subforces in themselves.
Overall, I'd say that the nature cares about itself, and we, as a part of nature, are subject to this care on an objective level, meaning we don't all consistently reap care.
VioletVortex
Well-Known Member
That depends on what you mean by "soul". I don't think that a human soul can make a host of an insect due to its lesser neural capabilities. Insects do, however, have "lower frequency" souls.
slipknot0129
New Member
Earth is pretty awesome. That's enough proof that the universe is loving.
"In fact?" You use this in a context that would more normally benefit from "in my opinion."
Objective level? Sure sounds subjective to me.
Ehhhhh.
You are a romantic.
Repox
Truth Seeker
The universe is a tender box of spiraling galaxies with exploding stars and disappearing worlds. The most powerful stars and galaxies survive massive explosions from hap hazardous collisions, weak and uncoordinated stars and galaxies disappear in death spirals. History tells the story of many millions of people oppressed and killed in destructive wars, plagues and diseases ravaging populations, prisons overflowing with criminals, masses of people striving to survive hostile and oppressive governments. Most recently, nations strive to develop nuclear weapons, some to defend their sovereignty, others to destroy adversaries. When is love coming to the rescue?
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Prestor John
Well-Known Member
I agree with some of this.
Prestor John
Well-Known Member
Since when has a person needed proof to voice their opinion?
Also, how could he prove a feeling with anything beyond feelings?
Don't attack some poor soul just because you have "love-filled universe" hang ups.
You say that while ignoring all the people moved by the force of love throughout human history?
You need to take a chill pill then have a rage dump.
Prestor John
Well-Known Member
When Jesus comes again.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
There is a truth.
it don't live here.
You can choose the love of the truth though.
this universe is too naive though, you can see it's goodness but living creatures choose to be evil more often than not. and it's a tragic existence this way. born of wild spirit, so few embark on a quest for truth. truth that is spiritual in nature.
oh well gotta work see ya
it don't live here.
You can choose the love of the truth though.
this universe is too naive though, you can see it's goodness but living creatures choose to be evil more often than not. and it's a tragic existence this way. born of wild spirit, so few embark on a quest for truth. truth that is spiritual in nature.
oh well gotta work see ya
Can you show us how love is a force, and not just a silly human idea people like to assign to things it really doesn't apply to?
Electromagnetism is a force. In this context, how is love a force, and how are you going to show us that it's a force? This is a debate after all, he's talking about the fundamental forces, and you are replying to him using a completely different definition for "force." Love is an idea, that has an effect. THAT in itself doesn't demonstrate that it's a force: Fundamental or otherwise.
"Love" in itself is nothing: Its value is what people assign to it. You haven't shown us that it's an actual force. And you haven't shown us that it's anything more than an idea.
You need some education hammered into your head, ASAP.
Love is not a force. For you to assign it force-like qualities is a subjective assessment by yours truly. Nothing more. You have no point here.
Hint: Love doesn't move people. People's ideas about love move people. Unless you're literally making the claim that it overrides free will. It certainly can't override the fundamental forces...
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InChrist
Free4ever
Well, most of the ideas you expressed don't make sense to me, but I can certainly agree love is the strongest force. I personally believe God is Love and definitely believe Love has victory over evil.