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My theory of existence

Discussion in 'Seekers Circle' started by St Giordano Bruno, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. St Giordano Bruno

    St Giordano Bruno Well-Known Member

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    I have tried my best to re-clarify this theory because of my difficulty imparting my information due to my communication disorder of Asperger syndrome. So I have great difficulty imparting this information and expressing my views in words, but I feel I know in my heart I am really on to something. Most people who get the gist of what I am talking about agree it makes a lot of sense, or even brilliant even if at first they do not like it or rubbish for my difficulty explaining it.

    I take up issue with those believers you can only live one possible life on this earth due to issues with the perception of time, because it is only through consciousness we gain any perception of time. So if you never exist for an eternity then you have no perception of time for that eternity then even time itself would come to an end so to speak. But IMO I think that would be paradoxical, because time should never end wouldn't it?

    But I have a theory that can circumvent that paradox, and that is that we simply MUST exist in one certain spacio-temporal location of the universe. So when one dies the sense of self not entirely obliterated but instead just becomes very much reduced - reduced to a single unifying principle at a phase the universe reached a critical level of complexity to permit consciousness to happen, just as it needed to reach a critical level of complexity for metallicity to happen, so momentarily you are one with a collective principle such as a collective ensemble of foetal brains obeying genetic information of until a person or some other conscious living thing is consciously actualized for you. This could also be a good explanation as to why we exist as this person in spite of the vanishingly slim odds, just simply because it is not possible to be aware of any of the failed attempts to exist. If this process keeps you, you may eventually personally experience the life of every person that has lived and ever will live and even other intelligent animals, because consciousness is so fundamentally necessary for any perception of time.

    This is also a theory consistent with a Weak Anthropic Principle which posits that it is only through intelligent beings you gain any sense of time and time has any subjective reality. In other words the universe only appears fined tuned for our existence and does not mean it has to be fine tuned any more any planet has to be fine tuned like our earth is, and as well we know most planets are anything but. It also means there need to be only one self in the universe in keeping the principle of Ockham’s Razor instead of the clumsy assumption that there are billions of individual “souls” that have all been created uniquely inside individual brains. Instead you just collectively exist as being at one with the human Brain as a pattern of biological design first then you are randomly selected as the person you are. The reason why you will never be aware of any conscious existence in the young universe is because there would be no carbon based life forms to make you an observer and the reason why you will never know of what conditions feel like in a dying black dominated universe is that is too full of entropy and disorder. So you we be forever locked in the time frame of a 13.7 billion year old universe as you switch backwards and forward through physical time.
    That is my theory, what religious niche do you think belongs to me? Bareing in mind that I don't believe there is any supernatural force beyond nature and it is only nature and nothing external that created us.
     
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  2. Bobbyh

    Bobbyh Infinite Nothingness

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    I believe in the very last few words you used, "Only nothing external created us". Outside of everything is nothing. Wherever there isn't something, there is nothing. What is nothing? It's a paradox recursivley reflecting non-existing existence Infinitely. Because of the unability for Nothingness to successfully emerge, there exists infinite recursion of relative spatial states, fractally fluxuating an entropy constructed of an infinitely complex network of the geometrical pattern that is everything. We sense bits and pieces of ourself as the stuff we percieve and relate to in the ways we are momentarily able to percieve, and we make a lot of assumptions. But infinite relativity is infinitely complex, being impossible to completely quantify with accuracy.
     
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  3. GrsshppR

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    Sounds interesting...defo something to think about.
     
  4. Autodidact

    Autodidact Intentionally Blank

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    I wish I was smart enough to understand you because I have a hunch you're on to something. Despite your limitations, could you try to break it down to me in simpler terms? Thanks.
     
  5. St Giordano Bruno

    St Giordano Bruno Well-Known Member

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    My theory works as such, ego initially exists as emergent property as a pre-existing collective ego, so even if your parents had never met you would just become somebody else instead and be locked in to the memories of that person's brain. I just have a hunch ego is just an emergent property that is initially rather fuzzy as first emerges when the universe is at that one certain point in its history when it has reached that critical level of complexity where ego is possible.
     
  6. truseeker

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    Your religious niche is filed under "W" - wierd
     
  7. St Giordano Bruno

    St Giordano Bruno Well-Known Member

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    Í can expound a bit further with my beliefs of theories and that is I completely reject the teleological argument for God because I find it much more plausible to believe all complex systems in nature emerged spontaneously out of simpler complex systems. One such example is the metallicity of stars, it took a fairly delicately balanced process for example to create the first carbon atoms with a resonant fusion of two helium nuclei and in such an excited and unstable it allow a critical phase for a third helium nuclei to create stable atoms of carbon and so was born a critical phase of metallicity which led on the possibility of further chemical reactions to create complex organic matter and another emergent phase of abiogenis or life. That again evolved to other more emergent phases such as at the Burgess Shales, a land mark era of explosive biodiversity. I find it perfectly plausible other Goldilocks planets throughout the universe would have gone through their own little Burgess Shale episodes to create more complex life forms such as Earth.

    God on the other hand would have to be a complex being in itself and I see no way I can explain that kind of complexity as well as one could explain spontaneously emergent complex systems in the universe such as the principle of metallicity or life evolving through land mark phases transitions such as Burgess Shale events.
     
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    You are very correct!!! GOD can never be explained nor should we really try. The dust collected together in what is refferred to as a brain can not process those ideas.

    We are all with the universe and imo it will expand for what ever distance it will expand to. That is time, the distance that the universe expands to. If or when it stops, time would end for the dust in it.

    How many souls do you think the sun can hold. How many souls might their be in one person in the now and current moment of time. Maybe we are not alone in our own body, but a group of souls already gathered together on a long journey.
     
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    Here is a fine example of emergent complexity; a complexity that was predetermined by the molecular configuration of water molecules right throughout the universe. I am sure such phenomena would be repeated all over the observable universe so if conditions were right on some very distant planet on the fartherest possible reaches of our universe the snow flake would form and settle of the surface of that particular planet, just like it settled on the surface of this one. But the universe did need to reach a critical phase in its evolution for snowflakes to exist in the first place such as the creation of earth like or other such rocky planets all over the universe. When the universe does reach a critical age, snowflakes will form for the first time almost simultaneously from thousands to millions to billions of possible conditions and points all throughout the universe like certain flowers blooming for the first time at springtime. All this without the need for a God.
     
  10. TurkeyOnRye

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    Brilliant, Saint! I've been accused a few times of having some form of Aspergers or Autism-spectrum in the past. I normally never think anything of it. It certainly doesn't have an effect on the way I view the world or the people who take such a naive view of my behavior. I call it Perspective of Autism Disorder, lol.

    For me, my brewing suspicions about consciousness and the mechanics of reality reached a critical threshold, followed by a very sudden explosion of light and revelations.
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    Dear Giordano Bruno

    You no doubt have an original thought here. But as you hold consciousness as the base ground, why do you then think that universes' development preceded emergence of ego?

    You had earlier said "Bearing in mind that I don't believe there is any supernatural force beyond nature and it is only nature and nothing external that created us."

    With that premise, will you not land in a problem that the Universe and the Ego are outside each other? If they are outside each other then there must be a third general thing which contains or pervades the "Ego" and the criticality developed Universe".

    I hope my post does not break the rules of this directory.

    Regards

    Om
     
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