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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Giomar Vazquez, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. Giomar Vazquez

    Giomar Vazquez Poseído por La Luna

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    Hello everyone!

    My name is Giomar, and today i'd like to present my personal religious beliefs.
    Now, mines are a little unique, in the sense that they do not pertain to any existing religious thoughts, paths, etc.
    Over the years i have tried countless times to find a religious path of which i fit into, something that calls me, but none have so far.
    So eventually, i decided to look into my own beliefs about religion and spirituality.
    What makes sense to me?
    What seems most logical, to me?
    Thus, after a few weeks concentrating and reflecting, i have concluded my beliefs and faith.
    I wouldn't call it a "new religion", i'm in no way a prophet nor a spiritual leader.
    Iv'e just come to terms with things that makes sense to me.
    As such, here they are-

    1. I believe in a being, an existence, which is everywhere, yet, nowhere, similar in concept to the Abrahamic idea of God. I personally call it, The Single Being. It has no gender, nor a name, as far as we know. It is behind the order of the universe, and doesn't have a preference for 'good' or 'evil'. There is no darkness without light, and vise versa. I personally have not tried praying to it, as i have no idea whether it will or even can respond in any way to worship or prayers in the traditional sense. I will try it soon.
    2. I believe the universe is connected to The Single Being, rather than the two being separate, and as such, i feel that all celestial objects (including the very mass of rock we live on, earth) should be treated with respect.
    3. I believe that all forms of spiritual practices, such as meditation, chanting, balancing energy, etc. Are a vital way to connect with the universe and thus with The Single Being.
    4. As for the afterlife and the creation of the world, i really have no say. Only The Single Being can have such knowledge of these topics.

    And that pretty much concludes it.
    As i mentioned before, i have not really tried to connect or pray to The Single Being. I know there is something out there, but as i have just started to reach a comprehension, I'm not fully 'enlightened if you will.

    I look forward to starting conversations!
     
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  2. leov

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    It is very gnostic like.
     
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  3. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Life will continue as it always has. It won't matter if you run off with your beliefs in High Spirits.

    The universe isn't going to mind. ;0)
     
  4. David T

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    I think thats a rather reasonable view. I prefer it to a kind of dead random accidental automatic pointless slave to our abstractions. or the kind where this reality has a reality outside of this, that created this reality like some divine computer or person in out likeness. A kind of divine virtual reality.
    They seem rather wierd, disconnected if you ask me.

    But yours has a soul. I like that. Keep contemplating.
     
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    Rythmn is a funny topic.
     
  6. Deeje

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    What religious paths have you tried so far and what led you away from them?
     
  7. Giomar Vazquez

    Giomar Vazquez Poseído por La Luna

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    Jeez, i have tried MANY.
    Name a random religion and i can guarantee you that i have tried or at very least researched upon it, lol.
     
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    Hello, Giomar! Welcome to IA: Ideas Amalgamated..

    aka, RF

    Just to let you know....I’m one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. If you have any questions for me, please ask.

    Take care, my cousin.
     
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  9. Trailblazer

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    That's very interesting.
    Your beliefs are not that different from mine, although I have a religion so my beliefs are more defined.
    For example, the Messenger of God (Prophet) I believe in revealed some of the attributes of God, the will of God, and something about the afterlife.
    We also have teachings and laws to follow.
     
  10. Giomar Vazquez

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    Ahh, the Baha'i faith. I actually have one of the holy books of Baha'i, i think it's called the book of servitude? I'm not sure, i only know it's original title, the Kitab-i-iqan. I considered this path, but i didn't really feel connected as i am a homosexual, and there are some teachings against homosexuality, so i didn't feel welcome.
     
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    Your belief is nothing new,

    In the days of Jesus, the Greeks believed by faith that all things were created from atoms, which they believed was the smallest indivisible particle. Even Paul said that it was by faith that they believed that the visible universe was created from ‘THINGS’ that could not be seen.

    The first law of thermodynamics is the same as the first law of conservation and that is, that energy can neither be created or destroyed. If energy cannot be created, then it always was, and If it can never be destroyed, it always will be. Therefore, according to this law, energy must be eternal, having neither beginning or end. Energy can be and is converted to that which we perceive as matter. In fact, this material universe at the time of the Big Bang was pure electromagnetic energy, which has been converted to that which we perceive as matter only to be reconverted to its original form as electromagnetic energy during the phase of the Big Crunch.

    If you believe that a universe of mindless matter has produced beings with intrinsic ends, [in Kantian terminology, an end-in-itself] --------- self- replication capabilities, and “coded chemistry”? Then you must accept that it is the eternal energy which has neither beginning or end, that has become this seemingly material universe and has developed a mind that is the compilation of all the information gathered by all the diverse life-forms that it [The Eternal Energy] or God has become.

    In fact, it has now been revealed that matter is no more than an illusion. Quantum physicists discovered that so called physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating, each one radiating its own unique energy signature.

    If you observed the composition of an atom with a microscope you would see a small, invisible tornado-like vortex, with a number of infinitely small energy vortices called quarks and photons. These are what make up the structure of the atom. As you focused in closer and closer on the structure of the atom, you would see nothing, you would observe a physical void. The atom has no physical structure, we have no physical structure, physical things really don’t have any physical structure! Atoms are made out of invisible energy, not tangible matter.

    “Get over it, and accept the inarguable conclusion. The universe is immaterial-mental and spiritual” (1) – Richard Conn Henry, Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University (quote taken from “the mental universe)

    A fundamental conclusion of the new physics also acknowledges that the observer creates the reality. As observers, we are personally involved with the creation of our own reality. Physicists are being forced to admit that the universe is a “mental” construction. Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. (R. C. Henry, “The Mental Universe”; Nature 436:29, 2005)

    Extracts from the link supplied.

    Nothing Is Solid & Everything Is Energy – Scientists Explain The World of Quantum Physics

    Romans 1:18-23 18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being, etc.

    The Logos is God, the essential divine reality of the universe, the eternal spirit from which all being originates and to which all must return at the close of each period of universal activity, who manifests itself as the visible universe.
     
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  12. Trailblazer

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    That is the Book of Certitude. I love that book. Another good book, if you want to know about God, is Gleanings.

    Anyhow, sorry if you did not feel welcome. There are Baha'i Laws that preclude homosexuality, but there are nevertheless Baha'is who are homosexual. My best Baha'i friend is a man who is married to a homosexual woman. They do not have sex but they have been married for about 35 years and love each other very much.

    It is nobody's place to judge others and the Baha'i administration does not monitor private lives as long as they do not make a public spectacle.
    However, the Baha'i Law is that sex is allowed only between married people.
    I think it should be okay for homosexuals to marry and thus not be breaking any laws but I don't make the laws. Maybe this will change with future legislation.
     
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  13. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Hi! :)
    Your reasoning seems very reasonable! D

    I'm a Deist and believe that everything and every force is a part of the whole, and the whole is my Deity. And so the closest word that means 'God' to me is 'Nature', or 'Mother Nature'.

    The thing is, that Deism seems to be as individual to Deists as our finger prints, and so once I've said that I'm a Deist there is not a lot more to tell. I've never published my finger prints, either. I mean, who would frame them? :p
     
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  14. Deeje

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    I have read many accounts over the years of people trying to find a religion that "fits" them. Its almost like going to a spiritual 'boutique' and trying on 'religion' like clothes....with a "does this color suit my complexion?" kind of attitude.

    The one thing they seem to have in common is that there is no "one size fits all" religion....and the very fact that there are so many religious persuasions is because when someone with leadership qualities fails to find their own "fit", they simply create a new "church" or faith...often with them as the only member.
    Is that the way its supposed to be? :shrug: What are they doing wrong?

    If there is a God who created all things, shouldn't we be looking to fit in with his requirements, rather than trying to squeeze him into ours?

    In my experience, its those who find out who God is, and what he wants from us, and then brings their life into line with his requirements, who find true happiness.

    What 'religion' were Adam and Eve? They had the right one initially, (it was the only one) but they lost it because it didn't suit them. Humans have been searching for an alternative ever since.....most unsuccessfully. Why do you think that is?

    Is you own religion the answer?
     
  15. Giomar Vazquez

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    I get what you're saying, and i've heard this argument a lot.
    It's not so much so that i want to 'fit in' with a religion (although sometimes i find the lack of tolerance in some unnerving), i'm just trying to connect with The Single Being.
    I've tried connecting with it through multiple names and paths, the various religions i have looked into, but ultimately, there are so many religions and beliefs that i don't know which God or Gods is/ are the true God/ Gods.
    And thus, i decided to look into my beliefs, the universe, cosmology, the material and spiritual world, and have decided that there is indeed an essence, or being, out there, wether it's a God in the traditional sense, Goddess, both, or neither, is unknown, and probably won't ever be known unless it decides to reveal itself.
     
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    Also i don't really consider my belief as a 'religion' of sorts, as there is no official dogma aside from the listed 4, and my beliefs are subject to change with more knowledge being acquired.
     
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    Do you think that the God of the Bible lacks tolerance for some things?
    Does the Bible indicate that the Abrahamic God had non-negotiable standards? If so, could you live within them if you found him to be the true God?

    What has drawn you to the conclusion that "The Single Being" exists? Is it deduction? An experience? Being influenced by the thinking of others?...or something else, like a gut feeling?

    The Bible explains the reason for this....have you ever considered a Bible study to explore the reasons for things that others find unexplainable?

    So are you hopeful of connecting with this Being if he/they decide to reveal him/themselves? How will you know?
     
  18. Marcion

    Marcion Tantra-Yoga Universalist

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    It is your longing that will automatically bring you to the right path for you if the longing becomes intense enough.
    I can relate to your aversion to religious paths who make claims of being the best that contradict each other.
     
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    Your view makes sense from a logical point of view. It answers this question:

    If God is the only eternal being that means that there was a point where he was the only thing in existence. It logically follows that if he were to create something, the substance of it has to come from the being of God himself, since nothing can be made from nothing. So what follows is that everything in existence has to be a part of God.

    This is in line with your second point. It would be interesting to see if someone disagrees with it. They would have to show how it is logical that God created creation out of nothing. If God can create something out of nothing then that would mean that something appearing out of nothing would also be possible which eliminates the need for a God to exist.

    Also, since a person would be made from the essence of God, as does every other thing in existence, focusing inwardly to communicate with God is a possibility to be explored.
     
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  20. Giomar Vazquez

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    Do you think that the God of the Bible lacks tolerance for some things?

    Not so much himself, but mainly his followers. There are so many Christians who look down upon other sects of Christianity as false instead of embracing them as fellow Christians. And they also look down upon things like homosexuality, of which i partake in. And since there are so many, which sect of Christianity is honestly the true sect?

    Does the Bible indicate that the Abrahamic God had non-negotiable standards? If so, could you live within them if you found him to be the true God?

    It's not the fact that i can't live with any standards, the thing is that i just try to feel a God's presence, but within most if not every Religion i tried, i felt nothing.
    I've tried to find spiritual satisfaction, but i could not, and not just in christianity.
    I'm sure if i ever really did feel the God of the Abrahamic faith, that i would live by what he prescribed in the Bible, Qur'an, and Torah.

    What has drawn you to the conclusion that "The Single Being" exists? Is it deduction? An experience? Being influenced by the thinking of others?...or something else, like a gut feeling?

    Gut feeling. I know there is a higher power, just as you do, but i do not believe it is any of the Deities displayed in existing religions, which is why it has no name and i jus decided to call it "The Single Being"
    I cannot say any rules with any certainty, like where we are going after we die, what its name is, etc. Because although it has an identity, i have yet to begin actively connecting to it.
    And i very well may never know of anything until the day i actually die, and i'm fine with that.

    So are you hopeful of connecting with this Being if he/they decide to reveal him/themselves? How will you know?

    Yes i am hopeful, and it all depends. Spirituality is key, so i will try many different spiritual practices as a way to connect with myself and a higher plane of existence. Maybe leave offerings of some sort, a ritual, admiring the moon and stars, and nature, since i believe that the creator is ingrained with the created, if that makes sense, prayer, and much more. I will know if i feel something that i usually don't feel while doing these activities, if i feel, just something.
    I'm not exactly sure how people even feel a divine presence, since i've never encountered one, but i'm pretty sure it's hard to miss, especially for one who has never felt one.

    The Bible explains the reason for this....have you ever considered a Bible study to explore the reasons for things that others find unexplainable?

    I actually haven't, and i might actually look into the reasoning the Bible gives soon, thanks for the tip.
     
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