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Featured My problem with Muslims from personal experience

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by ronki23, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. ronki23

    ronki23 Well-Known Member

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    I've noticed Muslims, whether they be from Sub Saharan Africa, the Indian subcontinent or Arabia, don't ever blame themselves for their wrongdoings.

    They condemn Israel, complain about American foreign policy, say 9/11 was an inside job and say ISIL is a grand Israeli conspiracy.

    I know a Turkish guy and a half Lebanese girl from my hometown who both drink alcohol and smoke

    From college I know a British born Bangladeshi and British born Pakistani. The latter is part of Pakistani solidarity campaign (but drinks alcohol).

    From undergraduate I know a Saudi male (anti Israel), an Omani girl (anti USA/Israel), a male from Guinea Bissau (anti USA/Israel, anti colonial), a half Lebanese half Libyan with a hijab, a British born Pakistani with a long beard, a British born Bangladeshi who wants to go on Hajj but he drinks alcohol, and another 3 British born Asians (don't know where they're from).

    From postgrad I know a Sudanese male (hates America), a Bahrainian girl (quite liberal actually), a Saudi lady (hijab, pro Palestine), a Palestinian guy, a Jordanian girl, a Qatari girl (hijab), a Senegalese guy and a Malaysian with a hijab.
     
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  2. Father Heathen

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    It's not just Muslims. Fundamentalists of any variety see their own religion/culture as representing righteousness and purity itself, and thus is beyond reproach in their minds.
     
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  3. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    So you blame Muslims for your problems????
     
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  4. LuisDantas

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    It is however remarkable how intense and widespread that attitude is in Muslim communities.
     
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  5. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium Resident Hermit
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    What path of reasoning led to that conclusion?

    Or are you just trying to instigate or pick a fight?
     
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  6. Vinayaka

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    I've only met about 10 Muslims personally, and none of them fit this description. I guess I need to get out more. The Ismaili shopkeeper where I used to get puja supplies for home and temple always greeted me with a smile, and a discount.
     
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    I have no negative experiance with muslims personally. those i talked with and met has been nice to me
     
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  8. SalixIncendium

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    AND my Muslim barber cut my hair too short...and when I said something, he blamed me for moving my head!!

    So yeah, even Muslims in America!
     
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  9. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member

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    Seriously? Is there any broad-brush generic group of people you don't spout bigoted contempt for?
     
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  10. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    My wife worked with a Muslim at a hotel, and she said the Muslim gave special discounted rates to other Muslims.

    ...My mom worked for a Muslim doctor, and he treated her horribly, and my mom was the nicest person I have ever known.

    Pretty Much every Muslim I have ever met are little *****es. Sorry for being so blunt, but maybe there are some decent ones that I haven't met.
     
  11. Jumi

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    People, don't limit yourself to your own experiences. I have both good and bad experiences of certain types of people. If I was unlucky and only had the bad ones, would I be forced to be fully against those types of people? It applies to any group.
     
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  12. Vinayaka

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    Experiences vary for sure. My first encounters were my students, all Lebanese who had been in Canada for a very long time, maybe 3 or 4 generations. Maybe they had become Canadianised, I don't know. One parent was a bit over the top, (nothing to do with Islam) but so were a ton of other parents. The TV show 'Little Mosque on the Prairie' tried to show a variety.
     
  13. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    It all depends on how far Islam was allowed to influence a person I guess. The less devout the better.
     
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  14. SalixIncendium

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    So what you're saying here is that some Muslims may be good barbers?
     
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  15. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Baconist
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    An advantage (or disadvantage?) of living in SE MI is that I've never
    had a bad experience with a Muslim in relation to their religion.
    They're just plain folk here....except for some occasional odd garb.
     
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  16. FearGod

    FearGod Freedom Of Mind

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    You're generalizing Muslims as if all have the same exact thoughts,
    you're absolutely wrong and I wonder if you met thousands of Muslims
    that makes you think that Muslims have one similar thought.
     
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  17. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Do you think 9/11 was an inside job? Just curious, thanks.
     
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    FearGod Freedom Of Mind

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    I don't know.
     
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  19. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Thank you for your honesty.
     
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  20. ronki23

    ronki23 Well-Known Member

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    Why can't they ever blame themselves for sins committed in the name of their faith? Why always blame the Jews. Don't take my word for it- look at Pew:

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