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Featured My Father is the biggest mass-murderer!

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Spiderman, May 21, 2022.

  1. Spiderman

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    I currently feel my vocation is to be the black sheep Jesus Christ who announces my Father is the biggest mass murderer and sadist in Scripture, killing everyone with a curse of original sin, giving us a death sentence and agony for a crime we are innocent of, torturing scared traumatized people with creatures from the bottomless pit in revelation, torturing people till they long for death, but death is not granted them, and he tosses people into lakes of fire, and warns of wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    My Father in Scripture, is displaying sadistic, psychopathic, cruelty of a monster indifferent to , or not feeling any remorse for creatures in chronic agony, for causing creatures the worst terrors and torture.

    Isaiah says God created evil.

    Sometimes , the most noble thing one can do is fight the source of all evil and misery: my Father , who tortured and murdered everyone , with the curse of original sin, for a crime they are innocent of, and my nonsensical Father would claim to be just.

    As long as a sadistic monster controls Heaven, earth will be stuck in agony. Some one more generous, more merciful, some one with a plan to save and make euphoric dreams come true for everyone, some one who doesn't torture people in hell, some one who speaks up and doesn't leave people feeling abandoned, may God's omnipotence and office be given to the most loving soul, who will use it to bring salvation to all.
     
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    All-Mighty, highly benevolent Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!
     
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    Viker Spirit in Black

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    "I'm waking up to ash and dust I wipe my brow, and I sweat my rust
    I'm breathing in the chemicals (yeah, ah) I'm breaking in, shaping up
    Then checking out on the prison bus This is it, the apocalypse
    Whoa I'm waking upI feel it in my bones Enough to make my system blow
    Welcome to the new age, to the new age Welcome to the new age, to the new age
    Whoa-oh-oh-oh, oh Whoa-oh-oh-oh, I'm Radioactive, radioactive
    Whoa-oh-oh-oh, oh Whoa-oh-oh-oh, I'm Radioactive, radioactive
    I raise my flag, dye my clothes It's a revolution, I suppose
    We're painted red to fit right in Whoa I'm breaking in, shaping up
    Then checking out on the prison bus This is it, the apocalypse
    Whoa I'm waking up I feel it in my bones Enough to make my system blow
    Welcome to the new age, to the new age Welcome to the new age, to the new age
    Whoa-oh-oh-oh, oh Whoa-oh-oh-oh, I'm Radioactive, radioactive
    Whoa-oh-oh-oh, oh Whoa-oh-oh-oh, I'm Radioactive, radioactive
    All systems go The sun hasn't died Deep in my bones Straight from inside
    I'm waking up I feel it in my bones Enough to make my system blow
    Welcome to the new age, to the new age!" - Radioactive, Imagine Dragons

     
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  5. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Check out these Bible gems of brutality and violence.....

    Hosea 13: 16

    16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
    because they have rebelled against their God.
    They will fall by the sword;
    their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
    their pregnant women ripped open.”


    Numbers 31:17-18

    He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them.... He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD's Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since.


    Exodus 21:20–21

    Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.

    1 Samuel 15:3

    “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
     
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    IF believing this makes you happy
    THEN best to continue this way
     
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    Guitar's Cry The "I" in Reality

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    Ever studied Gnostic Christianity?
     
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    Yeah, well, my father once wouldn't lend me 20 bucks.
     
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    Firstly, murder is unjust killing. God has right to kill, because He has also given the life, which is why it is not murder, if He kills.

    Secondly, I don't think God has given death sentence to anyone without good and right reason. Why do you think God has killed someone with curse of original sin?

    I think, if person gets punishment, he deserves it because he is evil.

    I think it would be good to understand that evil is like emptiness, or darkness, nothing. Evil is what is left, when good is not around. So, God creates evil by allowing people to be in darkness. And many people have chosen that and want it. I think it is wrong to blame God for what people choose and desire on their own.
     
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    It is a release sometimes, because my favorite guy in Scripture is Jacob, who loved his mom more than God, listened to his mother tell him to disobey, break God's rules, steal graces and blessings from God that belong to someone else, and his mother Rebecca said "let the curse and punishment for your sin be on me, not you".

    She became his female Messiah and savior, taking his punishment for sin on herself.

    So, because Jacob loved a woman more than God or anyone, God actually blessed his disobedience and Idolatery, and gave him the greatest blessing and bloodline, and royal family, and most influential political dynasty seen in history.

    Then Jacob continued breaking God's rules and God blessed him for it, eventually fighting all not with some one, who said "you have fought with God and won".

    His name was changed to "contender with God".

    He is actually someone who does what the Devil and Antichrist beast of revelation do, but he does it in a way God supports him, because God blessed Jacob for Physically assaulting and abusing him, not letting go when God asked Jacob to, until Jacob gave him what he wanted.

    Jacob is a contender with God, the same title as the Devil and Antichrist, and a goal to fight with God and win, but Jacob always makes sure he fights with God in a way that God actually loves his Hollywood bad guy Darth Vader Joker supervillain rebel, because he is the right kind of bad guy that God finds some sort of delight in.

    That was Jacob. His rise to glory was his love and loyalty to a woman over God. Saint Louis De Montfort said that people who have the devotion to the Virgin Mary , like Jacob had for Rebecca, they are prefigured by Jacob, and Mary will do for them what Rebecca did for Jacob.

    The Jacob vocation is you fight with God so that he will be more kind, and you try to always make compassion and charity and altruism your motive for attacking God, to save souls from his wrath. God will see and sympathize with his adversary, when love is the motive.

    I'm not saying I am Jacob yet, but he is my role model, and his title that God blessed him for is "one who fights with God", and he won.

    I have discovered there are many certified Rebeccas in Heaven for me, who want me to be their Jacob, and I treat them like Jacob treated Rebecca. It is rewarding spirituality.
     
  11. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Hosea 13: 16

    16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
    because they have rebelled against their God.
    They will fall by the sword;
    their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
    their pregnant women ripped open

    Yep this is certainly how to deal with the evil ones that deserve it.
     
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    Exactly, he does it in a way God supports

    Hence

    His way is totally different from the Devil and Antichrist; a clear difference to me

    So, he does not do what Devil & Antichrist do
     
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    The Devil and Antichrist are "contenders with God". Jacob's name was changed to "contender with God".

    He has that much in common with the Devil and the Antichrist, but he is also someone God loves and supports and blesses, so in that sense the opposite at the same time.

    Jacob's rise to power was through breaking God's rules, rebellion, deception, theft, and loving his mother more than God, which is Idolatery.

    God actually blessed him for bad behavior, made exceptions to general rules.
     
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    God admitted that he creates evil, disasters, and calamities (Isa. 45:7), and he purposely creates some people to be evil (Prov. 16:4).

    Isaiah 45:7

    KJV: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

    Evil:
    1. Morally bad or wrong; wicked, 2. Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful, 3. Characterized by or indicating misfortune; ominous.

    NIV: "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things."

    Disaster:
    1. An occurrence causing widespread destruction and distress; a catastrophe; 2. A grave misfortune, and 3. A total failure.

    ESV: "I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity; I am the LORD, who does all these things."

    Calamity: 1. An event that brings terrible loss, lasting distress, or severe affliction; a disaster, 2. Dire distress resulting from loss or tragedy; 3. Any great misfortune or cause of misery; in general, any event or disaster which produces extensive evils, as loss of crops, earthquakes, etc., but also applied to any misfortune which brings great distress on a person; misfortune; distress; adversity.

    Proverbs 16:4

    KJV: "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."

    NIV: "The LORD works out everything to its proper end— even the wicked for a day of disaster."

    ESV: "The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble."

    Wicked: 1. evil or immoral; 2. maliciously or mischievously playful; 3. severe and distressing.
     
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  15. Spiderman

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    That is extremely sad! :(
     
  16. Sgt. Pepper

    Sgt. Pepper RF's resident Beatlemaniac. ☮ and ❤

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    It's more than sad. It's sadistic and psychopathic. If the Bible is accurate, then God has proven himself to be a sadistic, psychopathic, bloodthirsty tyrant. An all-powerful and all-knowing God who deliberately creates disasters and calamities to inflict pain and suffering on humanity isn't a God who is worthy of anyone's reverence, praise, and worship. That's a God who should be shunned and rejected.
     
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    Yawn....if God made you what are you complaining about?
    People get exactly what they ask for.
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    Most respectfully: The above bold and underlined is an assessment of intention. How do you know this was the intent?
     
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    Well done on your post, Twilight Hue.
     
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