Pastek
Sunni muslim
- Saying that the God somehow missed to include some details in the book and after many years the book has become incomprehensible to us is in contradiction with the belief above.
Average people haven't access to the books of hadiths, the tafsirs etc and they get the message of the Quran.
What i was talking about is about the details explanations found in some hadiths that may help us to have a better understanding of the Quran.
People used to ask many questions to the Prophets about the Quran (verses) or about wht they can do or can't.
I think it's important -if we can- to try to learn from those teachings.
Of course we all know that some hadiths aren't true or can contradict each others, but we can make the effort to learn or see what is true or not according to the basis which is the Quran.
Like i said the exemples i gave were details (so not that important to know for believers) but they help for those who want to know more about the difficulties the Prophet (saw) have to face with.
Some people may ask why Muhammad (saw) had so much difficulties to bring people to his faith in Mecca while in Medina it was more easy.
With those details we learn that it's not just because the other 2 Abrahamic faiths were more present in Medina but also because of the Quraish's strategy and customs (fearing the tribe's opinion) than the base of the teachings.
So those exegesis are not just about having a name and knowing who is who (it's not necessary to know this) but more why and how it affected Muhammad (saw) and his followers.
As for hadiths who help us understanding the Quran -not talking here about the details concerning our duties such as the haj, mahr, zakat el fitr etc- i can give you other exemples concerning just the Quran.
1.Abu Lahab.
Without the hadiths we don't know who he is nor why he is named in the Quran and cursed.
I think you probably know that it was a proof from Allah that he could never convert even just to contradict Muhammad.
So without the hadiths we don't get the full meaning and the proof behind it that Abu Lahab was condamned in those verses and his wife too.
2.Joseph's brothers accusation
Without hadiths we don't understand why the brothers accused their brother Joseph. If it was a lie or something else.
They in fact were talking about something who happened when he was little to make a distinction -and look good- between them and Benyamin as they didn't have the same mother that the 2 other brothers.
So if Benjamin stole (according them) that's because he is like Joseph.
And we understand here better the verse. Without the hadith we can't guess what it's about.
So that's why the brothers only ask for forgiveness to their father when they knew about Joseph's position knowing Allah helped him and they accepted the fact that he was honored and prefered.
12.77 They said, "If he steals - a brother of his has stolen before." But Joseph kept it within himself and did not reveal it to them. He said, "You are worse in position, and Allah is most knowing of what you describe."
Tafsir :
"He had stolen a golden idol from his maternal grandfather and smashed it, lest he worship it"
(Al Jalalayn)
http://quranx.com/Tafsirs/12.77
So like i said above i agree that you can understand in general the Quran without the hadiths.
People before didn't have tv, books of tafsirs etc yet they were believers and get the meaning of Quran.
The hadiths help to understand more the Quran for the one who wants to.
If people want to understand what happened with details to the Prophet and his followers for exemple.
As for the one who just believe, doesn't ask that much questions (don't care about some details as above) or don't want to learn more about his religion and how the muslims dealed with what happened to them in this period : then it's ok to not use the hadiths.