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Multiple Proud Boys stabbed on election night

Who do you think stabbed them?

Proud Boys - Wikipedia

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According to David Neiwert, the Proud Boys recruit with emphasis on right-wing 15–30 year old white males who come primarily from suburbs and exurbs.[62] The Proud Boys say they have an initiation process that has four stages and includes hazing. The first stage is a loyalty oath, on the order of "I’m a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world"; the second is getting punched until the person recites pop culture trivia, such as the names of five breakfast cereals; the third is getting a tattoo and agreeing to not masturbate; and the fourth is getting into a major fight "for the cause."[17][34][63][64][65][66]

The Daily Beast reported in February 2018 that the Proud Boys have amended their rules to prohibit cargo shorts and the use of opioids and crystal meth.[67] However, the same article mentioned no restrictions were placed on cocaine."

"According to the organization, their loyalty oath includes a statement along the lines of "I'm a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world" and a pledge not to masturbate.[17][34][63][64][65][66] The masturbation policy was later modified to read: "no heterosexual brother of the Fraternity shall masturbate more than one time in any calendar month".[67]"
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Who do you think stabbed them?

Proud Boys - Wikipedia

"
According to David Neiwert, the Proud Boys recruit with emphasis on right-wing 15–30 year old white males who come primarily from suburbs and exurbs.[62] The Proud Boys say they have an initiation process that has four stages and includes hazing. The first stage is a loyalty oath, on the order of "I’m a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world"; the second is getting punched until the person recites pop culture trivia, such as the names of five breakfast cereals; the third is getting a tattoo and agreeing to not masturbate; and the fourth is getting into a major fight "for the cause."[17][34][63][64][65][66]

The Daily Beast reported in February 2018 that the Proud Boys have amended their rules to prohibit cargo shorts and the use of opioids and crystal meth.[67] However, the same article mentioned no restrictions were placed on cocaine."

"According to the organization, their loyalty oath includes a statement along the lines of "I'm a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world" and a pledge not to masturbate.[17][34][63][64][65][66] The masturbation policy was later modified to read: "no heterosexual brother of the Fraternity shall masturbate more than one time in any calendar month".[67]"
Admittedly the proud boys are a bunch of (imo) sexually frustrated cringe bros who are absolutely itching for a fight. Like they go looking for trouble. So it would not surprise me if they instigated the incident and this is the consequence. But if they were stabbed for no reason, then that still should be decried. I’m not holding my breath on their innocence in this case, though
 

Friend of Mara

Active Member
Who do you think stabbed them?

Proud Boys - Wikipedia

"
According to David Neiwert, the Proud Boys recruit with emphasis on right-wing 15–30 year old white males who come primarily from suburbs and exurbs.[62] The Proud Boys say they have an initiation process that has four stages and includes hazing. The first stage is a loyalty oath, on the order of "I’m a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world"; the second is getting punched until the person recites pop culture trivia, such as the names of five breakfast cereals; the third is getting a tattoo and agreeing to not masturbate; and the fourth is getting into a major fight "for the cause."[17][34][63][64][65][66]

The Daily Beast reported in February 2018 that the Proud Boys have amended their rules to prohibit cargo shorts and the use of opioids and crystal meth.[67] However, the same article mentioned no restrictions were placed on cocaine."

"According to the organization, their loyalty oath includes a statement along the lines of "I'm a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world" and a pledge not to masturbate.[17][34][63][64][65][66] The masturbation policy was later modified to read: "no heterosexual brother of the Fraternity shall masturbate more than one time in any calendar month".[67]"

Admittedly the proud boys are a bunch of (imo) sexually frustrated cringe bros who are absolutely itching for a fight. Like they go looking for trouble. So it would not surprise me if they instigated the incident and this is the consequence. But if they were stabbed for no reason, then that still should be decried. I’m not holding my breath on their innocence in this case, though

Proud Racists deserve respect now?

Proud violent racists deserve respect now?

Make no mistake. If there was any group that arguably deserved to be stabbed it would probably be them. Though the optics of 3 people of color stabbing and running is bad and no doubt will be used against the broader BLM movement. Which I do find a very sad prospect.
 
False equivalency. Where are racists mentioned in the article?

Yeah, they say they are very specifically NOT racist, even though white supremacists have sometimes seemed allied or joining in and stuff, the original guy kind of went off and put in charge I think some Afro-Cuban guy to make sure everyone knows they are NOT RACISTS:

"The Proud Boys is a far-right[2][3] and neo-fascist[4] male-only organization[5] that promotes and engages in political violence in the United States and Canada.[6][7][8][9][10] While the group officially rejects racism, several members have been affiliated with white supremacy and the Proud Boys has been described by US intelligence organisations as "a dangerous white supremacist group."[11][12][13][14]"

"The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has said that "[w]hile the group can be described as violent, nationalistic, Islamophobic, transphobic and misogynistic, its members represent a range of ethnic backgrounds, and its leaders vehemently protest any allegations of racism."[22] Despite denying that they are a racist group, the Proud Boys tend to espouse racist ideologies and attract white supremacists as members, with founder McInnes having said: "I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of. I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life."[22] The group believes men and Western culture are under siege, their views having elements of the white genocide conspiracy theory.[23][24][25] Members have participated in multiple racist events and events centered around anti-antifa, anti-left and anti-socialism violence,[26][27] with expelled member Jason Kessler organizing the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.[28][29] The Proud Boys glorify violence[30][31][32][33] and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has called the group an "alt-right fight club."[29][34][35] The organization has been described as a hate group by NPR's The Takeaway[36] and the SPLC[11] while the ADL has variously described the Proud Boys as an "extremist conservative"[37] group and ideologically as primarily "alt lite".[22]"

"fficially, the Proud Boys condemn racism, with Tarrio stating that the group has "longstanding regulations prohibiting racist, white supremacist or violent activity". However, the ADL has deemed the group as having antisemitic, Islamophobic and racist views, with the group known to threaten, intimidate or violently assault anti-racism protesters.[56] The group has claimed there is an "inherent superiority of the West", going to great lengths to mask members' connections to white supremacy.[57] The ADL states that the Proud Boys' "extreme, provocative tactics—coupled with overt or implicit racism, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism and misogyny and the fact that the group is so decentralized, inconsistent, and spread out—suggest the group should be a significant cause for concern".[37]"

"According to David Neiwert, the Proud Boys recruit with emphasis on right-wing 15–30 year old white males who come primarily from suburbs and exurbs.[62] The Proud Boys say they have an initiation process that has four stages and includes hazing. The first stage is a loyalty oath, on the order of "I’m a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world"; the second is getting punched until the person recites pop culture trivia, such as the names of five breakfast cereals; the third is getting a tattoo and agreeing to not masturbate; and the fourth is getting into a major fight "for the cause."[17][34][63][64][65][66]"

(I just put that there because I think it is pretty ridiculous)

"In October 2018, McInnes gave a talk at the Metropolitan Republican Club on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.[106][107] He stepped out of his car wearing glasses with Asian eyes drawn on the front and pulled a samurai sword out of its sheath. Police forced him inside. Later, inside the event, McInnes and an Asian member of the Proud Boys re-enacted the 1960 murder of Inejiro Asanuma, the leader of the Japanese Socialist Party; a captioned photograph of the actual murder had become a meme in alt-right social media.[26] The audience for the event was described by The New York Times as "a cross-section of New York’s far-right subculture: libertarians, conspiracy theorists and nationalists who have coalesced around their opposition to Islam, feminism and liberal politics."[108]"
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Make no mistake. If there was any group that arguably deserved to be stabbed it would probably be them. Though the optics of 3 people of color stabbing and running is bad and no doubt will be used against the broader BLM movement. Which I do find a very sad prospect.
Fair enough
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Yeah, they say they are very specifically NOT racist, even though white supremacists have sometimes seemed allied or joining in and stuff, the original guy kind of went off and put in charge I think some Afro-Cuban guy to make sure everyone knows they are NOT RACISTS:

"The Proud Boys is a far-right[2][3] and neo-fascist[4] male-only organization[5] that promotes and engages in political violence in the United States and Canada.[6][7][8][9][10] While the group officially rejects racism, several members have been affiliated with white supremacy and the Proud Boys has been described by US intelligence organisations as "a dangerous white supremacist group."[11][12][13][14]"

"The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has said that "[w]hile the group can be described as violent, nationalistic, Islamophobic, transphobic and misogynistic, its members represent a range of ethnic backgrounds, and its leaders vehemently protest any allegations of racism."[22] Despite denying that they are a racist group, the Proud Boys tend to espouse racist ideologies and attract white supremacists as members, with founder McInnes having said: "I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of. I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life."[22] The group believes men and Western culture are under siege, their views having elements of the white genocide conspiracy theory.[23][24][25] Members have participated in multiple racist events and events centered around anti-antifa, anti-left and anti-socialism violence,[26][27] with expelled member Jason Kessler organizing the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.[28][29] The Proud Boys glorify violence[30][31][32][33] and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has called the group an "alt-right fight club."[29][34][35] The organization has been described as a hate group by NPR's The Takeaway[36] and the SPLC[11] while the ADL has variously described the Proud Boys as an "extremist conservative"[37] group and ideologically as primarily "alt lite".[22]"

"fficially, the Proud Boys condemn racism, with Tarrio stating that the group has "longstanding regulations prohibiting racist, white supremacist or violent activity". However, the ADL has deemed the group as having antisemitic, Islamophobic and racist views, with the group known to threaten, intimidate or violently assault anti-racism protesters.[56] The group has claimed there is an "inherent superiority of the West", going to great lengths to mask members' connections to white supremacy.[57] The ADL states that the Proud Boys' "extreme, provocative tactics—coupled with overt or implicit racism, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism and misogyny and the fact that the group is so decentralized, inconsistent, and spread out—suggest the group should be a significant cause for concern".[37]"

"According to David Neiwert, the Proud Boys recruit with emphasis on right-wing 15–30 year old white males who come primarily from suburbs and exurbs.[62] The Proud Boys say they have an initiation process that has four stages and includes hazing. The first stage is a loyalty oath, on the order of "I’m a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world"; the second is getting punched until the person recites pop culture trivia, such as the names of five breakfast cereals; the third is getting a tattoo and agreeing to not masturbate; and the fourth is getting into a major fight "for the cause."[17][34][63][64][65][66]"

(I just put that there because I think it is pretty ridiculous)

"In October 2018, McInnes gave a talk at the Metropolitan Republican Club on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.[106][107] He stepped out of his car wearing glasses with Asian eyes drawn on the front and pulled a samurai sword out of its sheath. Police forced him inside. Later, inside the event, McInnes and an Asian member of the Proud Boys re-enacted the 1960 murder of Inejiro Asanuma, the leader of the Japanese Socialist Party; a captioned photograph of the actual murder had become a meme in alt-right social media.[26] The audience for the event was described by The New York Times as "a cross-section of New York’s far-right subculture: libertarians, conspiracy theorists and nationalists who have coalesced around their opposition to Islam, feminism and liberal politics."[108]"
I swear there was a video circling years ago where McInnes peed into a bowl of cereal and seemed to eat it. I’m not sure if it was a dare or he was super drunk or what the hell it was.
I know that’s irrelevant, but these people kind of freak me out if I’m honest
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The far left and right usually are the first ones hoping to spark off the 2nd Civil War and I'm certain to a degree that will eventually happen down the road.
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
The far left and right usually are the first ones hoping to spark off the 2nd Civil War and I'm certain to a degree that will eventually happen down the road.

If it does the left will get smashed to pieces, imo. I do think the right side of the spectrum is looking for more of a fight than the left, though. When it happens, things will change much more in this country than it did after the first civil war...
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
Meh... It's hard for me to feel too badly when proud boys or antifa get hurt while acting like fools. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
 
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