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Mother Teresa, more a devil than a saint, says Hitchens

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Well the wheels continue to turn to make "Mother Teresa" a saint:

https://news.yahoo.com/report-pope-oks-miracle-mother-teresas-canonization-084415600.html#

According to Christopher Hitchens, in his book "The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice", and in many of his debates, Mother Teresa was a greedy, sadistic hypocrite. He claims she profited greatly from donations she received, while allowing the people under her charge in her various hospices to live and die in squalor.

Hitchens' thorough research on the facts and figures of Teresa's corrupt empire have not - to my knowledge - been refuted. Yet the world sings her praises...
 

kepha31

Active Member
Hitchens' thorough research on the facts and figures of Teresa's corrupt empire have not - to my knowledge - been refuted.

"...His book, by the way, is a 98 page essay printed on eight-and-a-half by five-and-a-half inch paper, one that is so small it could easily fit into the opening of a sewer. It contains no footnotes, no citations of any kind. There is a role for this genre, but it is not associated with serious scholarship, and it certainly isn’t associated with works that make strong allegations against public persons. Rather, it is associated with the gossip pages of, say, a Vanity Fair..."
http://www.catholicleague.org/chris...osition-mother-teresa-in-theory-and-practice/

I once told Hitchens that one of the real reasons he hates Mother Teresa has to do with his socialist ideology: he believes the state should care for the poor, not voluntary organizations, and he especially loathes the idea of religious ones servicing the dispossessed. Indeed, he sees in Mother Teresa the very embodiment of altruism, a virtue he cannot—with good reason—fully comprehend.

The fact of the matter is that socialism is the greatest generator of poverty known to mankind, and Mother Teresa did more to heal and rescue its victims than anyone in the modern era. This explains why she is adored by the people who knew her best—the men and women of India (she is second only to Gandhi as the nation’s most revered person).

Hitchens is positively obsessed by Mother Teresa, and that is a very telling commentary on his psyche. She is a constant reminder that reason without faith is a dark hole.

http://www.catholicleague.org/hitchens-condemns-mother-teresa/
 
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Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You can't expect sanity from religions based on insanity. It's obvious Mother Teresa has never been good at anything but pulling scams, pimping the unfortunate, and most of all making false claims about helping anyone. IMHO, the only thing she's ever done is made people die faster and foist unasked for baptisms on people whom were incapable of refusing them.

As far as miracles performed (required to be a Saint) it's a miracle her sick and twisted operation was never put to the curb. The second miracle was that the Vatican thinks she was a good person worth attaching any cred to. Really, if she can be a saint we can saint nearly anyone. She was a terrible excuse for a human being, and there is no end to the disgusting things she was involved in.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Hey kepha,

This isn't about Hitchens. It's about mother teresa. And Hitchens' claims are either true or false. The devil himself could have written the book, and the same standard would apply. The claims are either true or false.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
According to Christopher Hitchens, in his book "The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice", and in many of his debates, Mother Teresa was a greedy, sadistic hypocrite. He claims she profited greatly from donations she received, while allowing the people under her charge in her various hospices to live and die in squalor.
Many seem to be attached to the idea of Mother Teresa, which glosses over the... unattractive actions she has taken.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
One does have to wonder what measure could consider Mother Teresa a saint. Unless anyone knows better than Hitchens and for whatever reasons kept silent, it is very clear that she was not even a good person.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
"...His book, by the way, is a 98 page essay printed on eight-and-a-half by five-and-a-half inch paper, one that is so small it could easily fit into the opening of a sewer. It contains no footnotes, no citations of any kind. There is a role for this genre, but it is not associated with serious scholarship, and it certainly isn’t associated with works that make strong allegations against public persons. Rather, it is associated with the gossip pages of, say, a Vanity Fair..."
http://www.catholicleague.org/chris...osition-mother-teresa-in-theory-and-practice/

Really? That's just sad.

Its true that saints are, and never were, "perfect" people. They were people. But this sort of smear campaign that isn't even backed by proper referencing? Really? Just... really? And people take this seriously?
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
The fact of the matter is that socialism is the greatest generator of poverty known to mankind, and Mother Teresa did more to heal and rescue its victims than anyone in the modern era.
Which is why Scandinavia, Finland, Germany, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Austria, the Netherlands and Britain are all 3rd-world rejects with the worst standards of living in the wor...

Oh, wait.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I have my beefs with Catholicism, but sainting her is like sainting the grim reaper. :p
santamuertegrande.jpg


Okay, so she's not an official Saint, but I had to. :p Catholicism does have a death loving side, anyway. Officially, Michael the Archangel is supposed to be the Angel of Death in Catholicism.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I feel about as disinterested in Mother Teresa’s sainthood as anyone can be. I honestly don’t know any details regarding anything she did (or is accused of doing). The Wikipedia article is my first exposure to any criticism of her whatsoever.

It seems to me that the worst criticism leveled in the article was that the “homes” run by her organization did not manage people’s pain with the proper amount of analgesics and failed to abide by “best practices” such as sterilization of used needles and separating TB patients. But in what way was she responsible for such practices in the "homes" run by her organization? Was she withholding analgesics from people in pain? Did she impose some rule about rinsing used needles under tap water? (Who re-uses used needles?) Did she refuse to quarantine infectious patients?

The article certainly doesn’t suggest any way that she may have personally profited by “the millions of dollars unaccounted for”. Nor does the article cite any evidence that Mother Teresa was responsible for anyone else profiting from donations to her charity. Is there any such evidence?
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
It seems to me that the worst criticism leveled in the article was that the “homes” run by her organization did not manage people’s pain with the proper amount of analgesics and failed to abide by “best practices” such as sterilization of used needles and separating TB patients.
The accusation states that she glorified their suffering instead of treating it in the name of Christianity. That is a big deal.

But in what way was she responsible for such practices in the "homes" run by her organization? Was she withholding analgesics from people in pain? Did she impose some rule about rinsing used needles under tap water? (Who re-uses used needles?) Did she refuse to quarantine infectious patients?
It is a very possible yes on all accounts.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Hitchens is positively obsessed by Mother Teresa,

No sir.

He is obsessed with pointing out people who have a genuine sick ideology that embarrasses humanity.


She was a mentally sick lady who made people suffer needlessly due to her faith in mythology.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

her clinics received millions of dollars in donations, conditions drew criticism from people disturbed by the shortage of medical care, systematic diagnosis, necessary nutrition, and failure to provide adequate analgesics to those in need

she raised over $100 million for her charity and yet only 5 to 7% of that was ever used to cater for the poor

criticism of her stance against abortion and contraception, both in India and abroad

She was mentally ill

Mother Teresa devoutly believed that suffering was a gift,
 
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