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Mother Teresa made a 'saint'!

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Ye gods that ghastly woman was no sort of saint! She would sooner see people suffer than allow them to have pain relief! I met someone years ago who had worked with her, they didn't think much of her!

Could she save the world? Jesus did say "leave the dead to bury the dead" and "the poor you will always have". Whatever work she did went beyond that and did better than any of us could or would do. It doesn't seem to me like anyone else picked up the work she did. Everyone has an axe to grind, and thinks they can do a better job, even those close to her. Let's give the woman a break.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Could she save the world? Jesus did say "leave the dead to bury the dead" and "the poor you will always have". Whatever work she did went beyond that and did better than any of us could or would do. It doesn't seem to me like anyone else picked up the work she did. Everyone has an axe to grind, and thinks they can do a better job, even those close to her. Let's give the woman a break.

I think everyone who works for "doctors without borders" would disagree, on several counts, and they aren't doing the relentless self-aggrandizing that Teresa-the-Selfish did.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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I think everyone who works for "doctors without borders" would disagree, on several counts, and they aren't doing the relentless self-aggrandizing that Teresa-the-Selfish did.

I know what other people think of her, which is why I gave my view and opinion. :rolleyes: Moreover, it's a done deal; people griping about it isn't going to un-canonize her.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
I have sort of a "network" going digitally with folks who lived or live in Kolkata (Calcutta) or West Bengal. Actually, it can be sort of a headache, just about 15 minutes ago some popup appeared on my smartphone as part of some messaging service which I have no idea how I got into this service, but it was from someone of Calcutta background and a Hindu defending Teresa who is being attacked for some reason and regarding becoming a Saint. So I have to admit I didn't read it all, in fact I couldn't get this thing to close so I had to reboot my phone, but it was pretty impressive defense and support of Teresa.

Now seeing this post, I understand what is going on, that she was apparently declared a Saint, which I think is great. Several of my relatives including my wife met the Mother in Calcutta and I will take their word that she indeed was wonderful. Yes I know there are a couple of Hindus on this forum that hate her, but not me, and she is beloved by the Hindus I know personally among Bengalis of all status. The argument to try and hate her is she "tried to convert" (other religions) but from those who were actually on the street or lived during her time in Kolkata who are Hindts they say to me that was simply not true. And she actually seldom got credit for all the works she would do, even though she was somewhat famous. A lot was done in the shadows that never made "headlines".

So I say, let's remember her and certainly not hate her. I am amazed, some have such hate of her and these same people admire phony politicians who are totally selfish and corrupt and actually call such elitist government class demons who have been looting the people for decades as "caring about the poor" or whatever. These dupes of political con jobs and dupes of socialist fascism make me sick at times. But I say hurray for Mother Teresa and I am a Hindu. Sure, there were some mistakes made, but she truly is a Saint cumpared to the heroes of some of those who attack her.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
So I say, let's remember her and certainly not hate her. I am amazed, some have such hate of her and these same people admire phony politicians who are totally selfish and corrupt and actually call such elitist government class demons who have been looting the people for decades as "caring about the poor" or whatever. These dupes of political con jobs and dupes of socialist fascism make me sick at times. But I say hurray for Mother Teresa and I am a Hindu. Sure, there were some mistakes made, but she truly is a Saint cumpared to the heroes of some of those who attack her.

If she had worked in aninymity that would have been one thing. But she craved the spotlight, cultivated her image, fostered suffering, and collected and misspent millions. This was not a humble person.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Could she save the world? Jesus did say "leave the dead to bury the dead" and "the poor you will always have". Whatever work she did went beyond that and did better than any of us could or would do. It doesn't seem to me like anyone else picked up the work she did. Everyone has an axe to grind, and thinks they can do a better job, even those close to her. Let's give the woman a break.
Just because you can't save everyone doesn't mean you have to reuse needles in the hospital you run or refuse to administer proper pain medication... especially when you had the money to do all this and more.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Just because you can't save everyone doesn't mean you have to reuse needles in the hospital you run or refuse to administer proper pain medication... especially when you had the money to do all this and more.

I don't know what India's medical laws are, but I find it hard to believe she had carte blanche to do what she wanted to do without doctors' supervison. Was she an MD or an RN? If the care she provided was so bad, then Indian doctors are at least partly, if not wholly to blame.

I'm not defending her or condemning her because I wasn't there. Rather, I'm suggesting that people who are quick to condemn usually have no first-hand knowledge. And even those who knew the person often have an agenda. I don't think anyone here, except maybe one or two people have even been to India.

People are quick to criticize or praise the media or a person depending on what they want to hear. There is always personal bias and three sides to every story: version 1, version 2, and the truth. Maybe she was a monster, maybe she wasn't, but the fact remains that everything being said is only hearsay and personal bias.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Mother Theresa, from what I understand was never medically trained as a nurse or doctor.

The fact that she was proactive in the decisions of their medical needs is mind boggling in light of the bizzare and unsanitary conditions treatment was administered that were said to have existed and occured. Even in India, poor as it is, I would think there would be some set standard there but I dunno.

Whatever the opinion, I think Mother Theresa was well meaning, but clearly not well advised.

I never liked or cared for religious ideologys mish mashing in direct care from a health and safety standpoint aside from spiritual needs. The Catholic church should know better in that regard in light they actively run healthcare systems, so while they regard Mother Teresa as a saint, the conditions were far below that standard.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I don't get into whether she was a "saint" or not, but I have read enough about her over the years, including having an opportunity to meet and listen to some of the Sisters of Charity while they were visiting here in the States, and she's a "saint" in my book. Perfect, no; but she touched so many lives, including a priest that served at my wife's church and worked with her and her group for several months while in India.

I guess the question I have to ask to maybe a couple people here is what have you done that has contributed more than Mother Teresa? Just a reminder that, as the old adage goes, "talk is cheap".
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Premium Member
I think a sinologist fixed my deviated septum.
 
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