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Mother of God

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Dogma is not written in stone. It is official Catholic teaching (Mysterium Ecclesiae) that frequently doctrine has been phrased in "the changeable conceptions of a given epoch" and that one must distinguish between the 'literal' truth infallibly taught and the way that truth had been phrased.
"The substance of the ancient doctrine of the Deposit of Faith is one thing, and the way in which it is presented is another. And it is the latter that must be taken into great consideration, with patience if necessary, everything being measured in the forms and portions of a magisterium which is predominately pastoral in character.

The meaning of the pronouncement of faith depends partly on the expressive power of the language used at a certain point in time and in particular circumstances.
Sometimes dogmatic truth is first expressed incompletely (but not falsely), and at a later date receives a fuller and more perfect expression.
The church usually has the intention of solving certain questions or removing certain errors, and these things have to be taken into account in order that the pronouncements may be properly interpreted.
Sometimes the truths enunciated by the church magisterium are in terms that bear the traces of the changeable conceptions of a given epic. Some doctrinal formulas may give way to new expressions which, proposed and approved by the sacred magisterium, present more clearly or more completely the same meaning.

As far as the infancy narratives are concerned, the 'literal' truth, that Jesus is the unique Son of God from creation, conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary.
There is no dogma concerning the 'how'.
reference; Biblical Exegesis and Church Doctrine which carries the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur, which are official declarations that a book is free of doctrinal error. Just in case you are inclined to question its Catholicity.

'Written in stone' is not a good way to begin a discussion on the nature of dogma in the Roman Church and the Official pronouncements.

This is all well and good, but does not address my objections to references 'opinions' expressed by Popes as any more than just that and limited to their interpretation only.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Is Mary, the mother of the brothers and sisters of Jesus, a goddess?

According tot he Roman Church beliefs Mary as 'Mother of God' and wife of 'God the Father,' yes this would be sufficient to describe Mary as a Goddess with a capital 'G.'
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member

The question of whether Jesus had brothers and sisters is open, and not resolved, but not the reason Mary would be considered a Goddess. The reason Mary would be considered a Goddess is the way the Divinity of Mary is described by the Roman Church.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Kosher laws, circumcision, and the law of Moses was very important up until then. It was determined in Acts chapter 15, that Christians didn't need to follow the old law

It seems to me that the point in that is, can person be saved, even if he doesn’t keep the whole law of Moses. And indeed, the law of Moses is not condition for eternal life. Righteousness is the condition.

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

Does the Jewish bible claim that person can’t be saved, if he is not circumcised, or has eaten wrong food?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Does the Jewish bible claim that person can’t be saved, if he is not circumcised, or has eaten wrong food?
No. First of all, gentiles are not obligated to follow the 613 Jewish Laws as found Torah. Secondly, Judaism pretty much refrains from the issue of "saved" as that's God's job to judge, not ours. Thirdly, different Laws have different penalties attached and some have no stated penalties at all. It never has been assumed that if someone broke one they broke all of them because of this.
 
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