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Most people follow Paul not Christ

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by wizanda, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. michel

    michel Administrator Emeritus
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    Amen.:clap
     
  2. greatcalgarian

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    http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/joseph_mccabe/popes_and_church/PandC-1.html

    Another angle of looking at Peter and Paul.

    http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/joseph_mccabe/religious_controversy/chapter_17.html
     
  3. greatcalgarian

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    Catholic story on Peter and Paul:


    http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0815.htm
     
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    Good Post, wizanda, goodman.
     
  7. BM5

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    So what is wrong with being a circumsized Hebrew ( true Hebrew that is) with exclusive first rights to Yahweh ?
    But the stranger was always welcomed into our midst, those that came and accepted the true faith and the rite.

    Saul of Tarsus arrived on the scene 10 years after Our Lords' Crucifixion, he had the blood of the early martyrs on his head and deserved the full measure of the law on him. The idea that Our Lord appeared to him and chose him for an apostle is nothing short of deliberate duplicity on Saul of Tarsus' part plus all his fellow conspirators. They moved in and intimidated the Apostles forcing a
    split between the Law of Moses and Christianity. This breakdown of continuity scandalized great numbers of Hebrew and even Gentiles.
     
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    Wow, BM5, that's a really interesting take! I had never heard that before.
     
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    Has anybody else noticed how much Saul/Paul contradicts Christ and turned the word faith into religious belief

    We should remember the order of things before we jump to this kind of conclusion. The letters of Paul were written before any of the Gospels, so Paul could not have purposefully contradicted Christ or turned the word of faith into religious belief. The church existed with its religion before the Gospel, as most churches who received the first Gospel traditions received it from Paul and were founded by Paul. The Gospels are, in many ways, the proto-orthodox official interpretation of Paul. We cannot look at the Gospels and say, "here is a religion-free faith" because it was written for a church that had been established for up to 50++ years. It was written by the church and for the church.
     
  10. Yasin

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    Hello Scott,
    May i just state one thing Jesus himself said "The servent is not greater then the master" so who gave Paul the authority to state the following:
    1 Corinthians 7:12
    1 Corinthians 7:18
    1 Corinthians 7:25

    Respectively, Yasin:bounce
     
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