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Most Illusory

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by The Hammer, May 9, 2021.

  1. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member
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    What do you think is the world's most Illusory idea or concept?

    I would say the idea of Freedom.

    No matter how "free" one thinks they are, ones options/paths will always be constrained by ones past choices. And ones past choices are often affected by the constraints put on us that we are unaware of, such as Culture, Language and/or Upbringing, etc.

    Therefore True Freedom, is Illusory. Freedom must always exist within bounds.
     
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  2. JustGeorge

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    Having an opinion counts.

    It doesn't, really. Many people struggle to define this, that, or the other thing, either for themselves or those around them. In the end, few care to any great length what your opinion is. Honestly, they're more likely to care about the kind of person they think you to be, (a part of which is really you, and a part of which is their own perception of you).

    I could spend the next three hours researching or arguing something or the other political, and make myself feel self important(another great illusion), but in the end my own conclusions are likely only meaningful to me.
     
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    Believing there’s nothing after death
     
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    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    Vanity and Wrath are also illusory; though, I don't think they're more so than Freedom (aka Chaos).
     
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    I don't think it's the most illusory idea, but it's up there on the list.
    The most illusory would be in the range of the "god" concept.
    With freedom, we (can) know its limitations and we can agree upon certain definitions. We talk about it and have all very similar ideas of what we are talking about. With god that seems pretty impossible except for very close people.
     
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    Nothing empty space said human theist.

    Human living. Theist.

    Human introduced unnatural death begins death in a different place. Inference nothing began first.

    Human death science cause of constant bodily converting. Science after death notification.

    Flesh removed after death.
    Bones slowly convert after death. As science informed after death scenario.

    Human says before life is the eternal does not own death.

    I own that spirit when I die.

    Said by a human.
     
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    God. I may be biased on this though.
     
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    God is up their near illusions
    Quite literally
    Well my god anyway
     
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  9. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    That capitalism is a good idea.
     
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  10. WalterTrull

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    My guess would be 'solitude'. Similar to freedom, but perhaps a more fundamental concept. "No man is an island". We do seem to be 'free' to walk various paths, even build a few, but we are never isolated, solitary.
     
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  11. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    Try being a vegan in Texas. :p
     
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  12. crossfire

    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    Absolutes. (Most of them anyway.) ;)

    <edit>
    To amend: Concepts of absolutes are a leading cause of illusory thinking.
     
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