Monotheistic Double Standard?

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Inspired by this thread: Atheistic Double Standard?

Speaking in general and in your opinion, do believers hold a double standard when it comes to religion?

Such as for example: demanding higher standards of evidence for other people's religions than their own.

...or monotheists who accept one god but reject all others without evidence.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Yes, I think in general most people tend to favor and make exceptions for their personal views.

 

[Kemosloby]

Since there is no absolute proof of God, one accepts One God on belief. The same belief allows you to renounce all other gods.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Since there is no absolute proof of God, one accepts One God on belief. The same belief allows you to renounce all other gods.

How does any of that make sense?

 

[Kemosloby]

How does any of that make sense?

It's the same standard. The standard of belief. Belief in One God rules out belief in other Gods.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It's the same standard. The standard of belief. Belief in One God rules out belief in other Gods.

The meaning I took from your first post was something like "we can't really justify beliefs in any gods, so I'll believe in only one."

It seems nonsensical to me, so I'm worried I'm not getting your intended meaning.

Edit: and I have no idea what you mean by "the standard of belief."

 

[Jeremiahcp]

The meaning I took from your first post was something like "we can't really justify beliefs in any gods, so I'll believe in only one."

It seems nonsensical to me, so I'm worried I'm not getting your intended meaning.

Edit: and I have no idea what you mean by "the standard of belief."

If you believe that only one god exist, then based on that belief how could there be other gods? I believe that is what he is driving at.

 

[jonathan180iq]

Since there is no absolute proof of God, one accepts One God on belief. The same belief allows you to renounce all other gods.

By your own argument, your god is just as valid as anyone else's god - using the standard of belief, of course. There is no real method by which to determine validity other than personal preference.

It's the same standard. The standard of belief. Belief in One God rules out belief in other Gods.

Unless you're a polytheist...

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If you believe that only one god exist, then based on that belief how could there be other gods? I believe that is what he is driving at.

If you put the "only" in there right off the bat, then you're begging the question.

There are plenty of gods that are generally held to be mutually exclusive with other gods. This fact by itself doesn't tell you that the god you believed in first was the correct one; it just tells you that if you accept both, there's a problem. It doesn't say whether it's better to hold onto the god you currently believe in or to reject it in favour of the new god.

 

[jonathan180iq]

Inspired by this thread: Atheistic Double Standard?

Speaking in general and in your opinion, do believers hold a double standard when it comes to religion?

Such as for example: demanding higher standards of evidence for other people's religions than their own.

...or monotheists who accept one god but reject all others without evidence.

All double standards are bad. By definition, a double standard negates the purpose of a standard...

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Inspired by this thread: Atheistic Double Standard?

Speaking in general and in your opinion, do believers hold a double standard when it comes to religion?

Such as for example: demanding higher standards of evidence for other people's religions than their own.

...or monotheists who accept one god but reject all others without evidence.

Belief, by it's very nature, overwrites reasoned and critical thought.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Belief, by it's very nature, overwrites reasoned and critical thought.

How about a belief arrived at by "reasoned and critical thought"? Also do you suppose it is a "reasoned and critical thought" to never believe something?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

If you put the "only" in there right off the bat, then you're begging the question.

There are plenty of gods that are generally held to be mutually exclusive with other gods. This fact by itself doesn't tell you that the god you believed in first was the correct one; it just tells you that if you accept both, there's a problem. It doesn't say whether it's better to hold onto the god you currently believe in or to reject it in favour of the new god.

"If you put the "only" in there right off the bat, then you're begging the question."

So? It is a belief in God, it is allowed to be based on fallacies.

 

[jonathan180iq]

So? It is a belief in God, it is allowed to be based on fallacies.

Seems more like you've backed yourself into a corner...
How is this not a double-standard?
How can you even start this conversation if you're going to shift the goal posts whenever it's convenient?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

How about a belief arrived at by "reasoned and critical thought"?

Indeed, just not the type/level of belief that religious belief falls under.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Seems more like you've backed yourself into a corner...
How is this not a double-standard?
How can you even start this conversation if you're going to shift the goal posts whenever it's convenient?

I don't always say what I believe and I actively engage in hypocrisy. We call it playing devil's advocate.

 

[Kemosloby]

If you believe that only one god exist, then based on that belief how could there be other gods? I believe that is what he is driving at.

Yeah basically. So in that equation it's belief that discredits the other Gods. Both the same standard.

 

[jonathan180iq]

I don't always say what I believe and I actively engage in hypocrisy. We call it playing devil's advocate.

I have no problem with purposefully taking the other side for an exercise in debate. But you've still got to hold that position accountable to the same rules of argument and logic as everything else. Lord knows there are plenty of practitioners on the other side who already make these mistakes for themselves - not need to add more.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

So? It is a belief in God, it is allowed to be based on fallacies.

If you're accepting only one irrational god-belief and reject all the others based on reason, you still have a double standard.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

I have no problem with purposefully taking the other side for an exercise in debate. But you've still got to hold that position accountable to the same rules of argument and logic as everything else. Lord knows there are plenty of practitioners on the other side who already make these mistakes for themselves - not need to add more.

"But you've still got to hold that position accountable to the same rules of argument and logic as everything else. "

Well I didn't, which clearly demonstrates I don't have to "hold that position accountable." Let me know if you have any other false claims about what I "got to" do.