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Monotheism and a Materialistic God
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You may as well ask is the God of theism materialistic.
Like in theism people have different beliefs about God, so to in Monotheism.
As a matter of fact the only thing which is different between monotheism and theism is the agreement amongst monotheists that there is only one God.
Other than that some Monotheists believe God is a Spirit, some believe God is a human, and some believe God is neither a material being nor a spirit.
So asking is monotheism’s God materialistic is simply lacking awareness of the diversity of monotheistic thought.
Having said that, I assume you are a pantheist, in which case the material universe is your God, so it makes for an ironic critique of Monotheism.
VoidoftheSun
Necessary Heretical, Fundamentally Orthodox
Complete opposite. Remember how the Abrahamic religions emphasize such an opposition to what they term "idolatry"?
(of course, Christianity doesn't care anyway and worships a dude but nonetheless, Judaism and Islam are very very serious about God being transcendent, formless, non-anthropomorphic, all-encompassing and the like).
VoidoftheSun
Necessary Heretical, Fundamentally Orthodox
Most Abrahamics are spiritual materialists though unfortunately.
(despite that the scriptures explicitly warn and command against that)
(despite that the scriptures explicitly warn and command against that)
early christians would have disagreed with you.
eik
Active Member
No they would not. The Greek term "ousia" was not introduced to Christianity until the Nicene creed in AD325, and that only at the insistence of Constantine. It had long been resisted until then. Until that time it was axiomatic that "God is spirit." Jn 4:24.
Gandalf
Horn Tooter
I subscribe to a very specific view known as Maratb al-Wujud which is best defined as panentheism with a very distinct degradation of divinity. All things require Allah swt to exist and all of existence is a byproduct of the physical nature of Allah swt but not it's entirety or the supreme essence. Divinity is best found the purer you go to the source until you reach the characteristic uniqueness of the creator. Divinity resides in everything but it resides more purely in the imams and Ahulbayt of the final prophet.
brian100
Member
The physical world along with man was his greatest creation.. it was so good that he become man thru his Queen the blessed Virgin Mary. I don't expect Heaven to be any better than what we see now.. except with Eternal life.. and with our wife. That Beloved in 1 John 4:7.. to back this up. Mark 10:6-9. Who will be someone to love for all eternity!
Being a bodiless Ghost and not being able to touch yourself is a hell. I think Atheists go there.
Being a bodiless Ghost and not being able to touch yourself is a hell. I think Atheists go there.
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Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
If heaven is like our human life here on Earth, with sickness and pain, i am not going to that heaven
life on earth is more like hell i would think.
brian100
Member
If heaven is like our human life here on Earth, with sickness and pain, i am not going to that heaven
Why would you get sick and die if heaven was another dimension on Earth? You'd just be young like Adam and Eve. And maybe just you two on an Island.
Not being able to touch yourself as a ghost is hell. I'm never going there.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I realize you and I see heaven differently
personally i do not understanding heaven to be on earth (even in a different dimension) but yes the heaven i understand is within a different dimension far away from our physical realm of our universe.In my understanding the only way to get to a heaven is by Cultivation of mind and body. And each Cultivation path/religion lead to different parts of heaven.
But i guess this discussion is best in a New thread, so i dont "hijack" this OP
brian100
Member
I realize you and I see heaven differently
In my understanding the only way to get to a heaven is by Cultivation of mind and body. And each Cultivation path/religion lead to different parts of heaven.
But i guess this discussion is best in a New thread, so i dont "hijack" this OP
If you want Heaven to be a dream world well I have bad news for you.. nothing is real there.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
So you seen heaven? And know it is false?
brian100
Member
I met a Luke person 17 years ago before I decoded the Shroud of Turin. He showed me a White Pearly Rosary he had in his r-pocket. Just some really happy stranger who knew me, and I never saw him before.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Not sure i understand this as an answer to my questionI met a Luke person 17 years ago before I decoded the Shroud of Turin. He showed me a White Pearly Rosary he had in his r-pocket. Just some really happy stranger who knew me, and I never saw him before.
what has Luke to do with if you seen heaven or not?
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
My understanding is that there is more then one correct answer to what heaven is, it comes from different levels of wisdom, so no man see heaven the same way. so i do not see Christian religion as the only true religion
nor do i see Falun Gong as the only true spiritual teaching. So i would never tell someone that my religion/spiritual teaching is the only true teaching