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Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by SalixIncendium, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. Kenny

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    If one is looking for a reason, any good reason is a good reason.

    Actually, the fact that there are so many translations in different languages, it actually supports and verifies the fact that they all came from the same source and supports its statements.
     
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    Hmm, 200 plus different versions in English language translation alone. Giving rise to 50,000 plus sects/cults/branches of Christianity. Many believing the interpretation their cult puts on the particular version they favour is the correct interpretation. And the rest will go to hell

    Btw, the source for most English language versions was compiled by committee from six different Bibles and published in 1611. The oldest, claimed as unaltered, Bible in common use is the Vulgate which was compiled in the 4th century
     
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    Is that why they're called holey Bibles?

    [​IMG]

    Sorry, couldn't scroll past that. I now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion...
     
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  4. Mister Silver

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    Try not to blow their minds with too much truth that will merely lead to apologetically silly responses.
     
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  5. Kenny

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    Hmmm... 200 versions doesn't mean "200 erroneous versions". Try again.

    Versions didn't create cults/sects.

    Making unsupported deductions from erroneous statements doesn't help your position. It just says you have a bias.
     
  6. ChristineM

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    No two are the same. Either only one can right on none are right

    Yet still there are over 50,000 cults/sects/branches of tyhe Christian church.

    I do not provide " unsupported deductions" , i proved fact.

    P.s. in the real world, fact and truth are not bias
     
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    I've read a dozen of them and they all say the same thing in different words.

    a cult is a cult is a cult even in your belief system.

    Scripturally, a body has many different parts but it is still one body. We fellowship with independents, Baptists, pentecostals, Methodists, Presbyterians, Church of God, Assemblies etc. we even do things together.

    So "different branches" doesn't mean different universal church of God

    No, you have stated a fact "many branches" but your deductions from there are simply your biased opinion.

    Exactly!! Now, if you can learn the difference between facts, truth and personal-opinion interpretations thereof, you will have grown.
     
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    So then Jasher is not inspired by the spirit of god even though the verse that quotes Jasher is?
    How does that work?
     
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    Oh Goody!
    You will be answer the age old question:

    Which version of the Bible is the one true word of God?​


    I suspect I have a much more useful definition of the word than you do.

    Just as are yours...
    So how does one go about determining whose bias opinions are closer to the reality?


    Ouch.
    Interesting how quick you are to condemn others for your own mistakes.
     
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    You did not answer the question.

    One wonders why the back peddling?
    I mean, you were so balls to the wall cocky to make your declaration, why fumble on it now?
     
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    (Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August ... ... ... ... God's Answer convinced the people to euthanize Nguyen Van Lem based off something he taught, the "Deadly Head Wound, Chain Reaction" ... ... ... ... 9/11/2001 has convinced the people here in the USA not to use excessive force against me, do you see a pattern of 8/21 to 9/23 in God's Activities with the Antichrist?..................(May 21, 2011 ... ... ... ... ("Matrix 1999, Nostradamus 1999), Japan believed a certain level of lethal force would guarantee a certain level of reaction from God, and that was true for 2011 (this can also be true for korea)

    ?????

    Book of Jasher (Rainbow/Cosmic Shift) (Joshua 10:13)
    Book of Volumes (Blood/Plague) (Hebrews 10:7)
    Book of Thunders (SEAL/Pole Shift) (Isaiah 28:11)
    Book of the Beast (Roll/Tongs) (Ezekiel 2:9)
    Book of the Stone (Joseph the Blessing/Grey Alien) (Jeremiah 51:63)

    ?????

    1. Book of the Beast = "Three Thousand Souls Were Saved" (Genetic Dan Sacrifice)
    2. Book of the Stone = "Adding to or Removing from the Gospel" (Joseph the Memorial)
    3. Book of Jasher = "Jesus Writing in the Sand" (Star Wormwood/Nibiru)
    4. Book of Thunders = "God allowed Jesus Body to be Delivered of Joseph the Richman" (the Universe is a picture of the Lord's Body, God reveals under the Two Witness Equation)
    5. Book of Volumes = "God allowed Flesh and Blood to give Testimony of the Gospel" (Our Body like the heavens and the earth is a holy temple, this was illustrated with Paul's Miracles (of napkin, flesh/blood)

    (Every "Tong Shall Cease", when God reveals his Body and that is a picture of the Tribes, and this is a picture of the Activity that marks the Seven Years of Revelation................"Joseph the Blessings" is a measurement of God's Activities towards the absolute maximum of Star Wormwood's Encapsulation of the Earth for 153 Days......................Joseph will increase in measure, and so will your need to do what is necessary.....................33 Days I'll have the Black Knight Satellite, beyond that time, you'll have to follow the "Deadly Head Wound" arguments God has confirmed already, Norway Spiral and Flight 370)........................5 Contradictions of the Gospel's Law, and God has clarified what the implications of the 5 Missing Books the gospel mentions in the New Testament in preparation for the events of Revelation) (Nguyen Van Lem 1968 .............blank statements..............moon walk..............The Third Temple is one of God's Mercies, but we'll have to see how this plays out in a few days on 8/21/2017) (Tomorrow again, City Hall, this may be your last change to settle this conflict of interest, follow in the footsteps of Japan (North Korea)
     
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    Hardly backpedaling, You are the one that said 200 versions were all different. You misinterpret confidence with cockiness. Or did I hit a chord in your heart?

    I'm just proving that you are creating a question that has no merit. Which version says something different? How many others would you like me to quote?

    The MOST exact is this one:
    jEn PREP ajrch'/ N-DSF h\n V-IXI-3S oJ T-NSM lovgo?, N-NSM kai; CONJ oJ T-NSM lovgo? N-NSM h\n V-IXI-3Spro;? PREP to;n T-ASM qeovn, N-ASM kai; CONJ qeo;? N-NSM h\n V-IXI-3S oJ T-NSM lovgo?. N-NSM

    Greek Interlinear. - But it says the same thing
     
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    I have read some, those that do not omit or add to say "similar" things which can and are interpreted differently.

    Are you saying Christianity does not have cults?

    David Koresh, Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite mean anything to you?

    Here are some more groups that meet the criteria
    What are the top ten cults in the U.S.? • ChristianAnswers.Net

    No my comments are based on fact, yours seem to be based on a deliberately insulated view of Christianity
     
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    Can you quote me where I said that? Since I didn't, I won't go for the strawman
     
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    PSALMS 55:6 And I said, Oh that I had wings like a dove! [for then] would I fly away, and be at rest. (Joseph the Blessings/Ether/Stone)
    PSALMS 55:8 I would hasten my escape from the windy storm [and] tempest. (SEAL/Pole Shift)
    PSALMS 55:9 Destroy, O Lord, [and] divide their tongues: for I have seen violence and strife in the city. (Tongs/Dead Work and Flesh)
    PSALMS 55:10 Day and night they go about it upon the walls thereof: mischief also and sorrow [are] in the midst of it. (Day Cycle Modification/Nibiru/Star Wormwood)
    PSALMS 55:11 Wickedness [is] in the midst thereof: deceit and guile depart not from her streets. (Blood/Plague)

    The Song books are really, not very valuable, so, its a logical statement that we should see one describing the other, or alluding to the missing books the gospel does reference. God's Mercies and judgments, are very infrequent, and they are typically not a mainstay when his actions are taken, for those reasons, the information is given a back seat, it does not have significant value, but it has some small value. (were at the 1260th day form Flight 370 today, however (D.B. Cooper), God uses Blood (Earth) / (Gospel) Spirit/ (Celestial Bodies/Son of Man /Water, so we'll have to see what happens from 8/21 to 9/23, the level of force was also good from the ethn** ppl, they should be more of the curse of man and god for the next few days and weeks, as INRI passes more directly to man and not as a result of "Joseph the Blessings's Expression with the Son of Man", whoever he is).
     
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    I quite like the existence of the Apocrypha, it means that which believers refer to as the holy bible is neither.
     
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    (INRI - I*/Rape/M*) (This is a revolving theme in the gospel, alongside the slander of God's Word, and the division/migration of the people)

    MATTHEW 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
    MATTHEW 13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this [man] all these things?
    MATTHEW 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

    1. James
    2. Joses
    3. Simon (Peter)
    4. Judas
    5. Jesus

    (See 5 Contradictions of the Gospel's Law, turncoated with INRI (these were all brothers, if that is true, then that is why the blasphemy surrounds these personalities, we see recorded), as a result of the sin of the church and state of that day)

    God only references about Five Books, and those books were not written with the Hands of Men, God did not use scribes, and then later on, completed the law. How to answer that as a statement from God?

    Book of Jasher (Rainbow/Cosmic Shift) (Joshua 10:13)
    Book of Volumes (Blood/Plague) (Hebrews 10:7)
    Book of Thunders (SEAL/Pole Shift) (Isaiah 28:11)
    Book of the Beast (Roll/Tongs) (Ezekiel 2:9)
    Book of the Stone (Joseph the Blessing/Grey Alien) (Jeremiah 51:63)

    33 Degrees of Pleiades/Orion/Taurus
    33 Degrees in the Pyramids/Egypt internal designs
    33rd Parallel to the Megalithic Structures
    33rd Parallel Association in Earth to God's Activities during the Gospel's Recording
    33 as a Measurement of Jesus, deliberately (Two Witnesses Equation) (Luke 3:23 and Matthew 12:14

    All of this is the "Cydonia Equation on Mars" a pattern that identifies with the broken particle chain or hyperdimension that identifies with God's Mercies and Judgment, that is the subject of the hidden books (19.5 Degrees is held as a universal pattern in all celestial bodies, perhaps the same is true for 33 Degrees, 8/21 to 9/23, that is what people have in view at the moment at least) (33 is perhaps also connected to genetic expression of ethnicity, so we'll leave that statement with the pyramids in egypt's internal designs)

    ACTS 4:36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, [and] of the country of Cyprus,

    God gave Moses a Completed Law that was the Old Testament. Now God doubles the Action and Gives the Church a Completed Law, and that is both the Old Testament and New Testament (Notice "Joses" a brother of Jesus is referenced, however, to rebuke INRI, God gives this to Barnabas/John, Jesus had three resurrections, Moses, and also John (David), that is the connection to God giving a completed law.

    There are a number of religious books, some with okay accounts, some with turncoated accounts of either Jesus or the Apostles. Most of these book were written in the New Testament, that includes the "Apocrypha". God did not include the perfection of the material in his action that was completed already. So there is no direct association, but because God bring to mind the hidden books, then, that was the motivation to steadfastly hold to this material.

    (God does intend to address the Antichrist Officially, around that time, we should see God's Mercies, identify, and proclaim his intentions somewhat more directly. Genetic Dan is your enemy, those nations and many other will need to be burned, long story short, we'll have to see what is necessary in a few days) (so far humanity has made a choice not to approach this matter directly, so we'll have to see)

    (D.B. Cooper proclaimed "8/21" (8/21 to 9/23), 666000 for the living body of jesus (would no longer be in view) would be completed and 200,000,000 for those left alive for 5 months would begin to be discerned in a round about way...................the UFO Guardian proclaimed the double tetrahedron activation of the pleiades and rainbow of Nibiru in our Earth's Sun, INRI is resolved between the house of joseph and the tribes) (all of this is apart of the law) (all of this will be resolved in a few days)
     
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    Your seemed peeved by my use of Christians cults

    "a cult is a cult is a cult even in your belief system"
     
  21. Kenny

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    OK. I can see how it wasn't clear. I was inferring that "yes" there are cults within the use of the Bible... but that it wasn't just on those who use the Bible... a cult is a cult INCLUDING your belief system.
     
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