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They don't do it in Yeshivah, but no, it's not forbidden for them to know Torah otherwise they wouldn't know how to practice their own religion. Women can be quite informed when it comes to the religion. Especially if you're a convert you have to know stuff to prove you're serious.
I think you can be serious without proving it...to anybody.
You can but Judaism is really strict about these things. They need to know a convert isn't just doing it to marry a Jew they're in love with or whatever.
Why do "they" need to know anything of the kind? Your marriage is a matter between you and the person you marry, and nobody else should be involved in it, in my view.
Because in the Jewish belief system a Jew is not allowed to marry a non-Jew. As I am aligned with Orthodox Jewish beliefs I cannot marry a Jew. Religion is not a necessarily individual matter in Judaism, it's a community and family matter. The whole nation is treated as one body. Judaism is a very family oriented faith. It's a notion that seems odd to many Europeans, Americans and other anglophone folk, but that's the way it is. Everyone has a designated role to play. It's not something you keep to yourself.
This is a journal thread so feel free to turn back.
Starting too many sentences with 'I' makes me feel self-absorbed, but here it is. I'm feeling so lonely lately. My friends on here have already felt the brunt on this, but no, I really do. Even on RF it seems most of my British and continental European peers are atheists or some form of 'spiritual but not religious' in a way with which I can't identify. It seems even talking about religion is taboo and causes folks' anger to rise, as for a lot of folks their dislike of religion seems to stem not from the ideology but the religious people and institutions themselves, and it just seems really hard to make people see beyond their hostile feelings and have an in-depth look at the religion itself on its own merits. This is an issue for me because my religion is my life; so I feel isolated and unheard; or worse, mocked and scorned. They say the best thing for religion is to 'keep it at home' - except this just isn't feasible for most seriously religious folks. It also seems to betray a hostile attitude towards religion in general; one of 'we don't want to hear or see it'. It's just too tiring for me to try to help people move past this a lot of the time.
This has also led to trouble finding a partner. I do like women, but to have one for a life partner seems wrong to me. It goes against my religious sensibilities, ultimately, and it feels incomplete. I need a bloke. Yet more women tend to be religious than men and there's no way I'm going for an atheist. I feel like I've lived up to my own expectations most of the time; I've not slept around, I've not strung people along (or if I have, I never meant to), I've not lied to folks about where I stand. It's no secret I talk about sex openly and have an appetite for it, but despite this I've kept myself in check out in the real world.
It's really depressing to me that I live on one of the most secular places (western Europe) on Earth. It means wherever I go 'locally' I'll face the same issues. I don't know what I'm meant to do at this point. Sometimes I wish I could just give up and join the ranks of atheists and be a part of my society, but I can't do that. I dislike the likes of the Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins cultists, too.
I don't know, maybe it is time to think of converting. It's better than jumping off a bridge.
The issue I have with it is that it makes me feel kicked out of my own culture; that my own people have said I'm not part of them. And Judaism makes conversion hard since it's a no-turning-back avenue. So it feels like I'm between a rock and hard place.
You might wind up on a Kibbutz in Israel, peeling potatoes.
Without a potato peeling tool.And you can post whatever you want. I mean c'mon? Suddenly you could only post Jewish things. Everything you posted would be Jewish. By definition! Every time you said anything we'd all think "That's Judaism!" I don't know if you want that kind of pressure.
On a more serious note: I can't directly empathize, but I do know what it feels like ballpark. It may not be strictly related to religion, depending on you. There are people (not necessarily you) who always feel like outsiders wherever they go, so make sure that's not you. In such people this feeling can follow them in to wherever they are going.
Well then, I was right -- in your faith, you personal happiness isn't important at all. It may be "family oriented," but you don't get to choose how to establish your family.
You don't seem to get this at all.
Let's not complicate things more for the poor folks on this threadI e-married a girl? I'm an e-lesbian?
I'm happy not being in the middle of the bell curve.
I think it may be too late for that!Let's not complicate things more for the folks on this thread
Same beliefs. Different covenants. If you're not born a Jew you are a Noahide, according to my faith. Jews were given Torah on Sinai; Noahides were not.
This is a journal thread so feel free to turn back.
Starting too many sentences with 'I' makes me feel self-absorbed, but here it is. I'm feeling so lonely lately. My friends on here have already felt the brunt on this, but no, I really do. Even on RF it seems most of my British and continental European peers are atheists or some form of 'spiritual but not religious' in a way with which I can't identify. It seems even talking about religion is taboo and causes folks' anger to rise, as for a lot of folks their dislike of religion seems to stem not from the ideology but the religious people and institutions themselves, and it just seems really hard to make people see beyond their hostile feelings and have an in-depth look at the religion itself on its own merits. This is an issue for me because my religion is my life; so I feel isolated and unheard; or worse, mocked and scorned. They say the best thing for religion is to 'keep it at home' - except this just isn't feasible for most seriously religious folks. It also seems to betray a hostile attitude towards religion in general; one of 'we don't want to hear or see it'. It's just too tiring for me to try to help people move past this a lot of the time.
This has also led to trouble finding a partner. I do like women, but to have one for a life partner seems wrong to me. It goes against my religious sensibilities, ultimately, and it feels incomplete. I need a bloke. Yet more women tend to be religious than men and there's no way I'm going for an atheist. I feel like I've lived up to my own expectations most of the time; I've not slept around, I've not strung people along (or if I have, I never meant to), I've not lied to folks about where I stand. It's no secret I talk about sex openly and have an appetite for it, but despite this I've kept myself in check out in the real world.
It's really depressing to me that I live on one of the most secular places (western Europe) on Earth. It means wherever I go 'locally' I'll face the same issues. I don't know what I'm meant to do at this point. Sometimes I wish I could just give up and join the ranks of atheists and be a part of my society, but I can't do that. I dislike the likes of the Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins cultists, too.
I don't know, maybe it is time to think of converting. It's better than jumping off a bridge.
The issue I have with it is that it makes me feel kicked out of my own culture; that my own people have said I'm not part of them. And Judaism makes conversion hard since it's a no-turning-back avenue. So it feels like I'm between a rock and hard place.
I moved to California from Indiana a few years ago, so I'm not totally in the dark of your situation. Back there just one meatless meal would turn heads amd get people asking me if I became vegetarian.
Actually I didn't mean to post that in the end, but I must have hit the wrong key or something.
You're in luck.