Miracles. Scientific Proof.

[The Hammer]

maybe you believe in evolution, too?

Yup... What's that got to do with anything?

You're being oddly combative tonight....

 

[YoursTrue]

Uhmm.. yeah? Why is that a problem? You called me out?

lol, it's ok. no explanation forced from you despite the continual queries from those who don't believe in miracles or God (OR gods) -- not sure what you were called out about -- but that's ok. Each to his own, eh?

 

[YoursTrue]

Yup... What's that got to do with anything?

You're being oddly combative tonight....

shrug. You claim to believe in gods or something like that but offer nothing to back it up. Meantime, why bother proving or showing anything, right? you take care...I won't call you obstinate or obtuse -- but could that be so? Take care.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yup... What's that got to do with anything?

You're being oddly combative tonight....

So the gods perhaps evolved, too?

 

[The Hammer]

not sure what you were called out about -- but that's ok. Each to his own, eh?

What I meant by "called out", is that in your post #91, you tagged me, with some vague reference to discuss something with Aup.

Now, I'm not really sure why you feel that's necessary. Especially, as I have not been participating in this thread at all before that, and had no intention of doing so.

 

[The Hammer]

So the gods perhaps evolved, too?

Fine.

... What about your God?

Prove it.

No Scripture allowed.

 

[The Hammer]

So the gods perhaps evolved, too?

No need. They aren't fully a part of this universe.

 

[YoursTrue]

Existence of any God or Goddess, one or many, has not been proved. Yeah, I do not believe in existence of any God or Goddes.

Of course, once you believe in God/Gods/Goddesses, then everything is hunky-dory, all things are possible. The stone tablet that God gave to Moses, making Mary pregnant by breathing in, Mohammad and the Iranian being his messengers, elephant or monkey faced Gods, churning of the ocean, universal flood, souls and Satan, heaven and hell, deliverance and punishment, rebirth and resurrection, and what not. The list is unending.

If I thought everything is good or fine re: religion, I'd also feel that I could go along with anything that any religious person says. (But I don't.)

 

[The Hammer]

You claim to believe in gods or something like that but offer nothing to back it up

Why should I? Considering your intent here doesn't seem cordial.

 

[The Hammer]

If I thought everything is good or fine re: religion, I'd also feel that I could go along with anything that any religious person says. (But I don't.)

All Religions are differing paths up the same mountain.

In the end we all reach the summit.

 

[YoursTrue]

Fine.

... What about your God?

Prove it.

No Scripture allowed.

Prove what? That my God evolved? Or didn't evolve? Why don't you just start with the Big Bang theory, ok?

 

[The Hammer]

Prove what? That my God evolved? Or didn't evolve? Why don't you just start with the Big Bang theory, ok?

Prove that they exist. Since you seem so intent on me proving mine. Didn't realize I was being that obtuse

 

[YoursTrue]

Why should I? Considering your internet here doesn't seem cordial.

I used to read Jung. Poor thing, put himself in a box...
I realize now he was demented, by the way.

 

[The Hammer]

I used to read Jung. Poor thing, put himself in a box...
I realize now he was demented, by the way.

Neat

 

[YoursTrue]

Prove that they exist. Since you seem so intent on me proving mine. Didn't realize I was being that obtuse

All I asked you was (more or less) what gods are you talking about. And you got in a ball not wanting to answer. I can understand that, quite frankly. So -- without taking too long, I'll just hope for the best and be well.

 

[The Hammer]

 

[YoursTrue]

Neat

poor Carl. He was nuts toward the end. Over the deep end, to use an expression.

 

[Sheldon]

You know what is interesting is that Jesus' opposers did not see him after his resurrection. Yes I find that interesting and relevant to your thought about miracles.

Well firstly you have no objective evidence of what anyone saw or did not see. Secondly there is no evidence for any resurrection, only hearsay claims in anonymous gospels. Lastly you need to tell us why you find my disbelief in fallacious appeals to mystery interesting, in light of this unevidenced hearsay in the gospels?

 

[Sheldon]

The account in the Bible is not good enough because there is no support for it. There is no way to check that what the Bible says is true.

Indeed, and solid reasons to be dubious, since it hails anonymously from an epoch of superstitious credulity and ignorance, and makes claims that are falsified by known natural and scientific laws.

Instead of bending every sinew of their intellect, to make what little facts we have fit the belief, one should start from a position of incredulity and scepticism that matches such extraordinary claims, and move from that position if and only if, sufficient objective evidence is demonstrated to justify it.

 

[Sheldon]

Just like you figure that the difference of genes between gorillas and humans is just somehow missing...

I have no idea what that means, but is the clearest use of whataboutism I've seen.

Why do theists think their beliefs can be propped up by attacking or denigrating other beliefs? A belief stands only on its own merits, or at least it should.