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Method of Trust

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by questfortruth, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. questfortruth

    questfortruth Active Member

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    QUOTE from my paper with Short Proof of Fermat's Last Theorem (P.S. can I sell the manuscript to you?):

    The unhealthy addiction to scientific skepticism pushes the reader to see a lot of mistakes, inconsistencies, and dubious places in the paper. So now please read text with a strong desire to confirm it: be more like a friend, not a foreign referee. If the author says, that he has written a proof, then a polite human considers it as proof. Did not the reader hear about the human factor -- wishful thinking? Latter is the cause of papers questioning global warming.

    Try to love the author like ``Good Samarian'' does to a stranger and look not for refutations (if desired, everything can be refuted through over-pushed imagination, trivial trolling, lies and daily discrimination), but look to confirm the manuscript. However, the globally overused method ``scientific skepticism'' pushes an author to earn tons of Gold and Platinum to convince editors in his sanity: that the newest open access (with astronomical article processing fees) journals are for.

    The reader thinks that we must keep the old system and methods even if they are not entirely healthy for authors because we have no alternatives. No. The method of ``scientific trust" is this:

    1. While reading the manuscript, a referee felt that a place in the article is doubtful.

    2. The referee tries to justify his unpleasant feeling with logic.

    3. Having substantiated it with logic, the referee looks for the reasons why the author may still be right within the arguments of the paper: so, e.g., the author is not forced to write appeal like ``the referee forgot the text at Eq.(2)!"

    4. If there are no such reasons for all referee's desire to serve the author's interests, then reject the article.
     
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    A Vestigial Mote Well-Known Member

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    This is the horrible, fallacious, yet hopeful insistence of a snake-oil salesman.
     
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  3. Milton Platt

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    I see no reason to accept something as true just because you say it is. Gullibility is not a virtue.
     
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    Is the World perfect? As example, No problems with global warming and ocean plastic wats or ever?!
     
  5. Milton Platt

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    I did not address any of the world's problems in my post. Only a single point in your post. That point was that I should accept something you wrote as true uncritically. i do not believe I should. Perhaps you were trying to make a different point and I have misunderstood?
     
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    Somebody can laugh out my papers following way: ``I see no reason to accept something as true just because you say it is. Gullibility is not a virtue.'' I reply to him: ``Is the World perfect? As an example, No problems with global warming and ocean plastic what-so-ever?! No, the World is mentally ill. But why then, if something is absolutely terrible, the Scientific Methodology is undoubtedly perfect?''

    The arXiv.org looks like a cemetery of the unchecked solutions to known conjectures, however the Positive Methodology, if widely accepted, can get them journal publication. The author with the M.Sci. scientific degree has no access to arXiv publication service because of its discriminatory policy. But others are accepted in arXiv, however, it does not help them to get fair treatment in journals. The human factor of a Journal is this: if a Journal is pessimistic, then the submission contains many fundamental errors, if a Journal is optimistic, then there are no significant errors in the same manuscript. The positive method is to be optimist while using logic. Therefore, in the first section of the paper, the importance of Positive attitude towards author sanity is explained, revealing the unofficial, but always used the method of Scientific Trust. However latter is used only selectively (thus, discriminatory) on people.
     
  7. Milton Platt

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    Your reply seems a bit garbled, but I will try to respond to at least a part of it.
    Your response about "is the world perfect" in no way is an appropriate response to my statement that I should not take a stranger's word as fact without critically examining it.
    I never said the world did not have problems and I never said the scientific method was perfect. But again, neither of these things have anything to do with whether I should accept your word as true simply because you wrote it down someplace.

    As to the journal you are referencing, I am unfamiliar with what it's publication standards are, but I am sure they are available. Why don't you post the standards here in the entirety and we can all judge for ourselves if the are "discriminatory" or not. Real easy, right?

    I'm guessing English isn't your native language and that's why we are having trouble understanding each other.....

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    I did your work for you. Here are the journal's standards: Please point out what you feel is discriminatory.

    To submit an article
    Everyone who submits should read the following general information:

    Please note that we do not accept submissions with omitted figures, tables or sections. We also do not accept "abstract only" submissions. Such submissions are unhelpful to readers and of very limited archival value.

    The availability of new submissions is explained below, in the section on availability of submissions and announcement order (policy change 2017-01). Note further that all official versions of submitted articles are made publicly available. See the discussion of submission version availability.


    Formats for text of submission
    Your submission to the archive must be in one of the following formats (listed in order of preference):

    Our goal is to store articles in formats which are highly portable and stable over time. Currently, the best choice is TeX/LaTeX, because this open format does not hide information. Note that for this and other reasons we will not accept dvi, PS, or PDF created from TeX/LaTeX source. Users of word processors such as Microsoft Word should save their documents as PDF and submit that. Note also that we will not accept scanned documents, regardless of format.


    Formats for figures
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    If figure files are too large, then readers with poor network connections will not be able to download them. Remember that arXiv has many users with poor network connections. If your submission has a large figure, be sure to include it, but make all possible efforts to reduce its size. Note that we do not accept submissions with omitted figures, even if you provide a link to another server. See our information on submission sizes and our bitmapping help for more information. If you have problems with a large submission, contact arXiv administrators.

    If you submit figures with your (La)TeX source, use standard macro packages (e.g., the graphics and graphicx packages) so that the figures will appear in the document. Unfortunately, arXiv administration cannot provide help with TeX-related issues, so seek help from your colleagues if necessary.


    File names and case sensitivity
    arXiv will accept only the following characters in file names:

    a-z A-Z 0-9 _ + - . , =

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    In general, each day's submissions before 14:00 US Eastern Time (EDT/EST) Monday through Friday are not made available to the general public until 20:00 US Eastern Time (EDT/EST) Sunday through Thursday. See the discussion of availability.


    Edit or replace your article if necessary
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    We encourage authors to update and to make corrections in their articles. DO NOT make a new submission for a corrected article or for an erratum. Rather replace the original submission.


    Take responsibility
    Because putting articles on arXiv entails certain responsibilities, authors must make their own submissions. Third-party submissions (by secretaries for example) are often the ones that cause the most problems, presumably due to lack of self-interest and related factors.

    The following information is also required for submission:

    • Institutional affiliation for the author(s) must be provided.
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    Availability of submissions and announcement order
    Submissions to arXiv are normally made public on Sunday through Thursday, with no announcements Friday or Saturday. Check the current time at the arXiv main site, with the amount of time remaining before the "freeze".

    Submissions Received Between
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  8. questfortruth

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    I am sure, that the first page has made zero impact on you. But it is explainable so: to change brain circuits is almost impossible. A longer treatment than 10 seconds is necessary.
     
  9. Milton Platt

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    I get that you think that some journal is discriminatory. I was not addressing that. But I did in another post. I posted the journal's publication policies. Please show which policies are discriminatory. If they aren't following their own policy provide an example.
     
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    Find the part where they demand the recommendation-letters for every submission. This policy is called "endorsement."
     
  11. Milton Platt

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    I checked and did not see that section see post #7. Are there other criteria not published here? This is a cut and paste from their website.
    I fail to understand why asking for a recommendation from someone would be a discriminatory policy. If you have a legitimate paper, someone in that field should be able to endorse you. Why does everyone not want to????
     
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    And again, my latter comment left no impact on your brain. Can't you free your mind with me? I have scientific degree M.Sci., why I must get recomendations?
     
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    I have scientific degree M.Sci., why must I get recommendations? Guess the Steven Hawking has not ever asked someone for recommendations.
     
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