Messiah

[BenFranklinFan]

Messianism is the belief in one messiah (or more messiahs). Countless faiths believe in the messiah and countless people do as well. While I consider Jesus as one messiah, I also believe that there is another, non-human, still lesser than God, Liberator that will come at an unknown time. I'm interested to know if you believe in 1 (or more) messiahs? If so, do you practice in organized religion? Or do your beliefs defy traditional religion?

 

[Rival]

I believe that the messiah has not yet come.

 

[Earthling]

Messianism is the belief in one messiah (or more messiahs). Countless faiths believe in the messiah and countless people do as well. While I consider Jesus as one messiah, I also believe that there is another, non-human, still lesser than God, Liberator that will come at an unknown time. I'm interested to know if you believe in 1 (or more) messiahs? If so, do you practice in organized religion? Or do your beliefs defy traditional religion?

The Hebrew ma·shi′ach comes from the root ma·shach′ which means "smear," so "anoint." Exodus 29:2 Exodus 29:7. So it means "anointed one." The corresponding Greek is Khristos, i.e. Christ. Matthew 2:4. Kings, like Saul, David and Solomon were anointed. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were called Anointed.

 

[Ellen Brown]

My previous concept of Christian Messiah is in peril, mostly because the followers of the "Born, Murdered, and Risen" Messiah mostly do not follow his teachings.

 

[Valjean]

"Whenever dharma declines and the purpose of life is forgotten, I manifest myself on earth. I am born in every age to protect the good, to destroy evil, and to re-establish dharma." -- Bhagavad Gita. 4:7-8

 

[Jos]

Messianism is the belief in one messiah (or more messiahs). Countless faiths believe in the messiah and countless people do as well. While I consider Jesus as one messiah, I also believe that there is another, non-human, still lesser than God, Liberator that will come at an unknown time. I'm interested to know if you believe in 1 (or more) messiahs? If so, do you practice in organized religion? Or do your beliefs defy traditional religion?

What exactly will this non-human Messiah do?

 

[Ellen Brown]

"Whenever dharma declines and the purpose of life is forgotten, I manifest myself on earth. I am born in every age to protect the good, to destroy evil, and to re-establish dharma." -- Bhagavad Gita. 4:7-8

Happy Birthday !!!

 

[Audie]

What exactly will this non-human Messiah do?

I expect they continue to be imaginary
and do imaginary things.

 

[Jos]

Messianism is the belief in one messiah (or more messiahs). Countless faiths believe in the messiah and countless people do as well. While I consider Jesus as one messiah, I also believe that there is another, non-human, still lesser than God, Liberator that will come at an unknown time. I'm interested to know if you believe in 1 (or more) messiahs? If so, do you practice in organized religion? Or do your beliefs defy traditional religion?

How did humanity get to a state where we needed to have a messiah in the first place? Who created us in such a way that we needed a Messiah in the first place? Why wait so long to save us?

 

[Dawnofhope]

Messianism is the belief in one messiah (or more messiahs). Countless faiths believe in the messiah and countless people do as well. While I consider Jesus as one messiah, I also believe that there is another, non-human, still lesser than God, Liberator that will come at an unknown time. I'm interested to know if you believe in 1 (or more) messiahs? If so, do you practice in organized religion? Or do your beliefs defy traditional religion?

The term Messiah will mean very different things to different people and faith communities. For Baha'is it is a Great Religious Teacher. Examples of Messiahs for Baha'is are Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, Zoroaster, Buddha and Krishna. We also believe the twin Founders of the Baha'i Faith, the Bab and Baha'u'llah were Messiahs. We tend to use the term Manifestation of God to describe such Exalted Beings.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Challenge to all thread participants:

Its about the use of oil in the term Messiah.

I will post this in a separate thread. The new thread is here: Messiahs and oil?

 

[Valjean]

How did humanity get to a state where we needed to have a messiah in the first place? Who created us in such a way that we needed a Messiah in the first place? Why wait so long to save us?

Who created such flawed creatures in the first place? Why, the omnipotent, omniscient Author of the Universe, of course -- and He did it twice!

 

[Jos]

Who created such flawed creatures in the first place? Why, the omnipotent, omniscient Author of the Universe, of course -- and He did it twice!

Who is this omnipotent creator? If He's omnipotent then He could have created perfect creatures from the beginning. And how did He do it twice?

 

[Valjean]

In His infallible wisdom, he created a race of screw-ups, then had to drown them all, along with everything else he'd made. He then tried again with the original model, expecting a better result.

 

[Vinayaka]

Countless faiths believe in the messiah and countless people do as well.

You can count may faith as one that doesn't believe in the Messiah concept, period. So for me the number is 0, and will always be 0. It seems totally illogical that God would all his power into a single person. If any individual person did ever have the power of God, that person most certainly would have done a ton more than has ever been attributed to anyone of the so called messiah figures. So to me, the very idea is nonsense.

But it must full some sort of psychological need, as indeed lots of folks seem to believe it. even cling to it.

 

[Stanyon]

How did humanity get to a state where we needed to have a messiah in the first place? Who created us in such a way that we needed a Messiah in the first place? Why wait so long to save us?

It's the carrot and stick routine, give a slave a little hope that there really is a light at the end of the tunnel and they will draw the cart till they drop with fewer if any complaints.
At least that is my perspective

 

[YoursTrue]

The Hebrew ma·shi′ach comes from the root ma·shach′ which means "smear," so "anoint." Exodus 29:2 Exodus 29:7. So it means "anointed one." The corresponding Greek is Khristos, i.e. Christ. Matthew 2:4. Kings, like Saul, David and Solomon were anointed. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were called Anointed.

Yup. Of course the apostles preached Jesus.

 

[YoursTrue]

You can count may faith as one that doesn't believe in the Messiah concept, period. So for me the number is 0, and will always be 0. It seems totally illogical that God would all his power into a single person. If any individual person did ever have the power of God, that person most certainly would have done a ton more than has ever been attributed to anyone of the so called messiah figures. So to me, the very idea is nonsense.

But it must full some sort of psychological need, as indeed lots of folks seem to believe it. even cling to it.

The Bible in its unfolding makes so much sense.

 

[Earthling]

Yup. Of course the apostles preached Jesus.

Indeed they did. Jesus was one of those who were anointed by Jehovah for a specific purpose.

The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, 1906, Vol. I, p. 163; Vol. II, pp. 710-737 listed 558 references in the most ancient rabbinic writings which the Jews thought of as prophecies applying to the Messiah. In the Targum of Onkelos, the Jerusalem Targums, and the Midrash the expression "Shiloh" refers to the Messiah. Genesis 49:10, for example.

 

[YoursTrue]

Indeed they did. Jesus was one of those who were anointed by Jehovah for a specific purpose.

The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, 1906, Vol. I, p. 163; Vol. II, pp. 710-737 listed 558 references in the most ancient rabbinic writings which the Jews thought of as prophecies applying to the Messiah. In the Targum of Onkelos, the Jerusalem Targums, and the Midrash the expression "Shiloh" refers to the Messiah. Genesis 49:10, for example.

Yes. Particularly Jesus resurrected.