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Featured Men and Abortion

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jun 27, 2022.

  1. Fool

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    Should men who have casual sex and father a child be required, made law, to financially and physically raise their unwanted and or unplanned babies? forced to coparent?
     
  2. Hermit Philosopher

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    Financially, maybe.
    Emotionally, no. That would not be in the child’s best interest.
     
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    why should that matter; especially if the mother is no better?
     
  4. Estro Felino

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    The law imposes only material support.
     
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    I think that would be fair.
     
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    If prochoice people are consistent they should be ok with the father choosing to not taking care of the child.
     
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    Is it your attitude that, generally, "the mother is no better"?
     
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    how is that? we're talking about the act of sex and having conceived. why would you legislate that one has to vs another doesn't? can you legislate one person is responsible for the act of two?
     
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  9. Fool

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    no. but if the mother doesn't believe she is physically, financially, or psychologically responsible why make it a father vs a mother issue? the focus generally isn't on the parents situation. it's on the fetus being born at all costs
     
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    Financially, absolutely. Otherwise, the child is probably better off with no contact unless the father shows a genuine interest in the life of the child he fathered.
     
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    We are. However, since the government has decided to control women’s bodies and all of their actions for an 18 year period after having sex, then the men should have the same loss of control to the government’s whims. Fair is fair.
     
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  12. Jayhawker Soule

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    Thanks for the clarification.
     
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    Why should it matter that it’s not in a child’s best interest? What an odd question.

    Because we’re not talking about issuing penalties for having unprotected sex here, are we? What, as in: your “punishment” for not wearing a condom is to spend X amount of hours with a little child?

    Are you for real?

    It’s always about the child’s best interest. Anything else is ridiculous.
     
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    In a 50/50 joint act the father helped create the child. The father should therefore shoulder responsibility and maintain the child until it is old enough of earn its own living. In this.

    If anti choice people were consistent they should also compensate for the harm they have done on forcing an unwanted child on to the world
     
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    If women have the right to abort their children shouldn't men have the right to not take care of their children as well? Seems like women have an extra right men do not have. Men have financial issues as well. Now I am not for this. I think that when a women is pregnant the mother and father need to take care of that child as a moral obligation.
     
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    I agree with you that men need to take care of their children.
     
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    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    As in a shotgun wedding? No.
     
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    It shouldn't, which is why abortion, and adoption should be legal avenues.
     
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    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    Is creating and enforcing dysfunctional families good for children?
     
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    Financial help without loop holes would reduce welfare. Too many men jump from job to job, so they can't be tracked down for child support. It's disgusting.
     
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