Mr Cheese
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you should endeavor to keep your spinal column as straight as possible.
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you should endeavor to keep your spinal column as straight as possible.
I'm bad at meditation.
But I'd like to be better
If anyone had any advice for a meditation dummy like me I'd like to hear it.
I was thinking of buying one of those meditation cushions on eBay. Are they a good idea?
Meditations « Prayers and Reflections
Today we explore walking meditation. This can be done in a number of ways. Here we explore the Wu Wei walking meditation.
A Kabbalistic version can be done by the following exercise also.
The Taoist practice of aimless wandering through places of great natural beauty is a wonderful way to cultivate Wu Wei. As we practice, little by little we revive our capacity to move in the world with the kind of joyful ease and spontaneity that we see in young children. At the same time, we are nourished deeply by the elemental energies by the plants, minerals and animals, the earth and the sky.
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If you find discomfort a problem, try lying down. What position you're in while meditating is irrelevant.
How does physical posture lead to proper meditation?
So it depends on the style of meditation, not meditation in general? I have studied different meditation styles, and have found that posture isn't very important, but perhaps I have a different grasp. People develop on their own. I don't disagree that posture could help, I just don't believe it is paramount to successful meditation.
So it depends on the style of meditation, not meditation in general? I have studied different meditation styles, and have found that posture isn't very important, but perhaps I have a different grasp. People develop on their own. I don't disagree that posture could help, I just don't believe it is paramount to successful meditation.
do your own thing regarding posture until you get serious enough to do it correctly,
Try likening this say to a person who does push-ups with his back arched and one who will keep their back straight using a little more effort. Who do you think will fare better and notice the results?
I don't think that this illustrates meditation well. You see, push-ups are physical, and the body must be aligned properly for the maximum benefits to arise. The mind has little to do with the success of push-ups. Meditation is both, but more powerfully it is the mind, and then neither. Whatever posture you find which is comfortable enough for you to get into the right state, works.
I do know there have been many schools teaching postures and why they work, and that's great. There have been many schools teaching martial arts and why they work. The trick is, just as in martial arts, the real success depends on the person, not the technique.
depends on the person, not the technique.
Yes, it Happens on its own accord.meditation happens.
What you are saying here is very true. I won't disagree with this at all. But perhaps you are viewing and regarding mind solely in way of it's intellectual properties? There are undoubtedly strong folks who lack Intellect, and weak folks who hold a supreme intellect, but this does not necessarily mean that an intellectually deficient person has a weak mind or an intellectually strong person has a strong mind. Say an athlete who does not do academically well can still have a strong mind in way of will power, determination, and maintaining discipline. Conversely a person who does very well academically can have a very weak mind in way of will power, determination, and maintaining discipline as it pertains to the body.I understand what you are trying to say, Nowhere Man, I still disagree. Many really strong people aren't strong in mind, and many people strong in mind aren't strong in body. The relationship between mind and body can produce great effects, but strength in one is not required in developing the other. Look at the stereotypical nerd or jock. Not being rude, but physical strength can come through little effort of the mind, and a great mind can blossom with little help from the body.
No, meditation is a dance of the two, to begin with, but the physical posture is NOT important, rather, physical posture is AS important as what the mind focuses on. But as we develop ourselves in meditation, we must keep in mind that we seek to free the mind as well, and therefore it is not important. So in meditation one needs to focus on quieting not only the mind, but the body as well. So the importance of posture is only effective when it achieves this goal. When the body and mind are left behind, meditation happens.