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Me vs. Lewisnotmiller on Strawberry Rhubarb Pie

Discussion in 'One-on-One Debates' started by KAT-KAT, Oct 7, 2020.

  1. KAT-KAT

    KAT-KAT Well-Known Member

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    This is a 1 on 1 debate. I'd suggest people besides me and lewisnotmiller not reply in this thread, but even if you do, I couldn't keep a straight enough face about this subject to report anyone.

    So, let's begin the debate...

    Me: "If a space alien ship landed, would or would not the space aliens like strawberry rhubarb pie?"

    @lewisnotmiller : "They'd like it. They'd declare it the second best pie they could imagine in the entire universe. And after they've eaten it, all that would be left would be a few strawberries they'd picked out and tossed to the side."

    My response:

    That may be true. But the strawberries were likely tossed to the side with the rest of the piece because the aliens got indigestion while listening to Earth music, particularly Billie Eilish. It doesn't prove strawberry rhubarb pie isn't the best.

    Me: "Can eating strawberry rhubarb pie be considered a spiritual experience?"

    Lewisnotmiller: "Yes. It's spiritual in the same way that watching the birth of the kid you love less is."

    My response: Since you're an atheist, you eat babies, so I'd argue you only judge based on taste. That's a poor way of judging a child.

    Me: "Will there be strawberry rhubarb pie in heaven?"

    Lewisnotmiller: "Hah! I'm an atheist, so I'm more interested in whether there is apple and rhubarb pie in hell."

    My response: I've got no response.

    Me: "Are the pyramids a result of eating strawberry rhubarb pie?"

    Lewisnotmiller: "The pyramids are the result of assistance from the aliens in question 1. But since they appear to have been eating rhubarb and strawberry pie (and tossing out the strawberries) I'm going to have to say Yes on this one."

    My response: Billie Eilish wants a word with you.

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  2. lewisnotmiller

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    In all serious debates, it's vitally important to determine the scoring criteria, and appoint a neutral judge, just so we can make sure there is fair play and both sides have the rules impartially applied to them.

    I guess we can forego all that in this case though!!

    I shall simply address each of the points my honourable opponent has raised, and show quite clearly why my argument is the more compelling. In the process, I shall demonstrate that my opponent is kind of a poopy head, but that's more happy co-incidence than intent.

    Kat-Kat : That may be true. But the strawberries were likely tossed to the side with the rest of the piece because the aliens got indigestion while listening to Earth music, particularly Billie Eilish. It doesn't prove strawberry rhubarb pie isn't the best.

    This would be a good point, were Billie Eilish actually human. However, she is one of the aliens, and came to Earth WITH them. Consider a couple of her songs;

    My Strange Addiction - this was clearly an ode to apple and rhubarb pie, not apple and STRAWBERRY pie. Consider - there is not a single reference to strawberries in the whole song.

    Everything I Wanted - Little known fact, but she wrote this whilst being forced to subsist on strawberry and rhubarb pie. It was clear that wasn't her preference. I mean, here are some of the lyrics. Judge for yourself;
    I had a dream
    I got everything I wanted
    But when I wake up, I see
    You with me


    Poor girl was clearly pining for rhubarb and apple pie.

    Kat-Kat: Since you're an atheist, you eat babies, so I'd argue you only judge based on taste. That's a poor way of judging a child.

    I do judge on taste only. This skill is exactly what I bring to the table. A finally honed ability to judge on taste only. Babies, pies and insects. I can accurately rank them all on taste. It's a gift.

    Kat-Kat: I've got no response.

    I'm slightly concerned that this sensible response of having no response will get you banned from the interwebz. That is not generally well-received here.

    Kat-Kat : Billie Eilish wants a word with you.

    Just one? Is it Xanny?
     
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  3. KAT-KAT

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    Now might be the time to talk at long lengths about my boring idea of how debates should be done.

    I see debates as being decided by the crowd. There's not always a sincere way of asking the crowd "Who won?" in any debate without gaining their sympathy for an individual person asking. So the most neutral way I can see it is, the best indication of who won is by the number of frubals on the posts.

    Of course, some people don't trust the audience to make good decisions, and thus see it as a terrible idea.

    Having a human judge is interesting but in my experience, they tend to be more partial to people of their own group, whether that group is being the same political status, religion, or even membership status (staff, normal member, etc) as them. But it makes for an interesting discussion either way.

    Also, in my observation, the crowd knows when a person is being a bit too controversial, and that post doesn't always get as many frubals.

    I'll respond to the rest in a bit as I'm on an Android phone without a lot of RAM, which makes it hard to make big posts.
     
  4. lewisnotmiller

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    I think the Greeks had the right idea. Take a bunch of entitled property-owning men and get them to write some rules on who should be classed as citizens. Then, allow all citizens a say and call it democracy. I'm sure it was pure coincidence that it turned out to be entitled property-owning men who got to vote.

    So, in the interests of celebrating this fine tradition, let's let everyone* like whatever posts in this thread they see value in, and then declare a winner based on that.

    * with 'everyone' meaning white, middle-aged Australian men currently holding moderator privileges.

    As for responding later, all good, mate. I'm supposed to be working, and have my performance review kicking off in 20 minutes. Whoops!!
     
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  5. KAT-KAT

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    I respect that she wanted rhubarb and apple pie. But the truth is, she needed a Xanny. After taking said Xanny, the path became clear and she saw that that strawberry and rhubarb was clearly the best.

    She is an alien, but it's not something you can hold against her.

    I'd argue your calling it a gift is based on hearsay - you heard a close friend say that a friend said gift
    when they actually said your taste in all things living is a rift.

    I'd argue that sometimes, the things not well received are received with open arms because the public realizes the things they want to receive are things not well received.

    I see you have your own biases against those with mental health issues who sing about them. You need to stop these biases before it gets so bad you have to blame the people with red names, then the people with red names will blame the members, then the members will blame their computer. And I just don't like seeing perfectly good computers put on trial.
     
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    Hmmm...I might have to concede this one. It seems at least possible that she is a Xanny-popping alien who prefers strawberry and rhubarb pie over good homely earth food.

    Hah! Got you!! I don't HAVE any friends. At least for the purposes of trying to score cheap points in this thread....ahem...

    I did try to follow this logic. I really did. It resulted in 2 things;
    1) Whiplash.
    2) A stray thought that you're ready for politics. Vote 1 Kat-Kat.

    I do. But to be fair, I also have biases against these groups;
    1) People with mental health issues who DON'T sing about them.
    2) People with no mental health issues who sing about either not having them or other topics.
    3) People with no mental health issues who don't sing

    Apart from that, I am completely unbiased. Mostly.

    Wait. Wait. You see the red names too? Holy crap, I thought it was only me. Have you ever worked out why their names are red? They are a dubious bunch indeed, so I thought it was either possession, or some sort of CIA watchlist.
    I mean, @Sunstone , @Quagmire and @Debater Slayer - could you ever FIND a more watchlist-worthy group of possibly possessed individuals?????
     
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  7. KAT-KAT

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    It makes sense. I just hope she doesn't eat too much. The stuff goes right to your Xanny.

    You're just trying to get me to be sensible and find common ground with another human being so you can use it against me later.

    I will answer that in a parable:

    There once was a woman in cyberspace. She faced a level so hard that when she finally won and passed it, she still had to handle the stench of all the dead bodies created when she died and before she respawned upon all the attempts at winning the level.

    That woman was me. And the obstacles in the level were also me. Which is why you should vote!

    It may give you an upper hand in this debate. But I'll let it slide.

    You think you know but you have no idea.
     
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    Ha! Genuinely laughed out loud.

    I mean, I don't know how I'm supposed to assemble a file of blackmail-worthy facts on you if you keep being all cautious and stuff.

    It's a tangent, but has anyone ever done a second coming of Jesus set in the outer reaches of space sometime in the distant future? Instead of turning water into wine he'd take space snacks and turn them into...well...wine. I mean alchohol still seems like a sensible end result.


    You sound just like my wife. About almost all topics.
     
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