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Featured Maya and the Illusion of Form

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jul 30, 2019.

  1. Fool

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    do those who become lost, become hypnotized by the kaleidoscope of changing light passing through prisms?


    E = M(c*c)
     
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    Huh?
     
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    Form looks pretty real to me, even if it were made of energy and light.

    What is wrong with material or form anyhow? Seems neutral, like it never hurt a thing itself.

    What could pose a problem is something entirely different being able to ‘feel’ the material rotting, decaying, suffering. Undesired feeling. Also, the ‘attraction’ or ‘attachment’ to excess and unhealthy amounts of material.

    Also, if it’s an illusion.... what is trying to trick us and make us lost? Is the light being deceitful and tricky?
     
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    I can get lost in Lost in Maya

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    But if can produce some fantastic effects

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    forms are temporal. why fixate on temporal?
     
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    Love requires the human form.
     
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    Third What?
     
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    dimension
     
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    nope


    self-preservation is a form of love. love of self and can be found in a myriad number of forms.
     
  11. ChristineM

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    Ahh, the additional dimension by which a solid object may be distinguished from a two-dimensional drawing or picture of it or from any planar object.
     
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    the creatures seeing themselves in the mirror cannot understand themselves as the image in the mirror. they are conscious of something but don't realize i am that i am


    so they rage against themselves


    we see in two dimensions and the mind adds depth; which is the third dimension. then we step higher into the fourth dimension; where things are abstract and don't really have a physical manifestation, or observation but we know they exist and we search for them.


    believe, test, realize.

    we are the crazy people
     
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    Quite a few creatures are self aware and can easily pass the mirror test

    Mirror test
     
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    that wasn't the point. there are a few who can't and yet have consciousness of something, not even realizing it is self. they are caught up in the form of otherness. this is the illusion of maya
     
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    Sound very much like a mental/cognitive disorder to me, look up prosopagnosia
     
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    it isn't; if the being had never seen it's own face before and understood what it was seeing.


    people act differently when they have knowledge, understanding of something vs see it as foreign, different, unknown to/from self
     
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    So perfectly normal then, like the mirror test i mentioned earlirt
     
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    But totally finite and reoccurring.
     
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    no, the being focuses on the form. it doesn't focus on the action. the action, the spirit, the energy of the thing, is what is important. not the form.

    form only follows function. form evolves from adaptation of the mind to the change. continuously evolving. the form is temporal. mind, consciousness is eternal.
     
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    the form is recurring, transforming. the consciousness isn't.
     
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