Martin Shkreli jailed after Facebook post about Hillary Clinton

[leibowde84]

That would be the case if he said this over dinner with his friends. But he put it on the internet, with a $5000 dollar offer. That's more than just "reasonable" persons. It includes every freak with internet access who wants $5000.
And he knew that when he did it.
Tom

I agree

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Why? Bail for convicted criminals isn't a fundamental right. It may be granted in cases where they are judged to be no threat to the public based on certain conditions.

When you have a convicted criminal out on bail the benefit of the doubt therefore goes to protecting the public, not to keeping criminals out of jail. It is unrealistic to wait for a 2nd criminal conviction before revoking bail after all. A reasonable chance that a crime has been committed is sufficient to consider it in the public interest to return them to jail.

Do you believe there should be a whitelist of crimes you may commit while out on bail? or do you believe you should be allowed out until actually charged/convicted with a 2nd crime? (or something else?)

I believe there is enough doubt about his intentions to not revoke bail on this particular occasion.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

It doesn't matter what his actual intent was. It only matters whether a reasonable person could think he was serious.

And I guess I'm saying that I don't think a reasonable person would think he was serious.

 

[columbus]

And I guess I'm saying that I don't think a reasonable person would think he was serious.

I don't think that a reasonable person would fail to grasp that the internet is available to unreasonable people.
He made an offer and knew that psychos would get it.
Tom

 

[The_Fisher_King]

I don't think that a reasonable person would fail to grasp that the internet is available to unreasonable people.
He made an offer and knew that psychos would get it.
Tom

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this point!

 

[columbus]

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this point!

Let's put it this way.
When you're out on bail, which is imminently revocable, a reasonable person would be a lot more careful about posting offers to pay $5000 for a personal assault on the internet.
Tom

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Let's put it this way.
When you're out on bail, which is imminently revocable, a reasonable person would be a lot more careful about posting offers to pay $5000 for a personal assault on the internet.
Tom

I disagree.