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Marijuana - Is it truly evil?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by JAHLion, Jul 17, 2005.

  1. JAHLion

    JAHLion Member

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    Greetings!

    I am posting this because I have seen many Christian organizations that preach that Marijuana is evil.

    So, what is your take on marijuana?

    And if you believe ganja is bad for you, what are the bad aspects of it?

    Jah Bless.

    Ras Evan
     
  2. Scuba Pete

    Scuba Pete Le plongeur avec attitude...

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    The use of marijuana is not covered in the scriptures except as it applies to obeying the local authorities.

    I hate ANYTHING that affects my mind, excepting of course my seeming addiction to hyperbaric Nitrogen. :D
     
  3. JAHLion

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    NetDoc,

    Give thanks for your reply, but concerning the scriptures, I beg to differ...

    Some interpret ganja as being in the Bible. Check out this link.

    http://www.thc-ministry.org/thelivingtorah.jpg

    But the basis of this thread is not about how ganja is or isn't in scriptures. The reason for this thread is knowing the TRUTH of the physical and/or mental effects of ganja.

    Jah Bless.

    Ras Evan
     
  4. CaptainXeroid

    CaptainXeroid Following Christ

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    I concur with NetDoc and add this. The growth, production, distribution, and consumption of marijunana is illegal to one degree or another in the US. The dealers usually carry illegal weapons to protect themselves(no honor among thieves) and do not report their profits as income in addition to breaking the law by dealing with ganja in the first place.

    I have never smoked it or anything else, and I have no intentions to suck on the end of something burning, so the only comment I can make on whether it's bad for me is that mankind has known since the caveman days that breathing smoke was bad for people. Beats me why anyone has purposely done it since.:confused:
     
  5. JAHLion

    JAHLion Member

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    Seen. Give thanks for your reply.

    But did you know that ganja has medicinal effects?
     
  6. The Black Whirlwind

    The Black Whirlwind Well-Known Member

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    nothing is evil. only in your mind.
     
  7. michel

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    Nothing is evil per se (except for evil) . Marijuana might well be efficatious if pure, medically dispensed in tablet form (after having been deemed as safe by the regularity controls) - for people who suffer from certain delilitating ilnesses ( I am thinking here of M.S M.E, F.M.S).

    My son unfortunately will not hear ny opinions on Marijuana - he deems it safe to smoke - and that is the end of it, as far as he is concerned.

    There is now emmeriging evidence that a variety of Marijuana (for recreational purposes) called 'Skunk' (SP ? ) is far more dangerous than the 'ordinary variety'.

    Personally, if I want to damage my Brain, I'd rather stand in the busy intersections of main roads, and inhale those lovelly car exhaust fumes - I mean, they must be safe, otherwise cars would have been banned (*Wouldn't they ?):shout
     
  8. Linus

    Linus Well-Known Member

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    Not directly, that is.

    Philippians 4:8 - Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.

    I would hardly say that marijuana is either honorable, pure, lovely, of good repute, or praiseworthy.

    I think that covers it too, Doc. :D
     
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  9. Valjean

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    Why is marijuana less honorable, pure, lovely, reputable or praiseworthy than any other crop? Do you think Jesus didn't wear cloth made of it or fry His food in it's oil?

    Unlike such tawdry crops as apples, cotton or wheat; cannabis has multiple uses -- Fiber for cloth, cordage and paper; oil for cooking; drugs for anorexia, pain, glaucoma & al.
    Cannabis is a plant, plain and simple. Granted, the plants may appear somewhat unkempt, to some eyes, and not qualify as "lovely," but loveliness isn't everything.

    Poppies and foxgloves are lovely, but the former yields a drug that is both useful and eminently abusable; the latter a useful drug that is frankly dangerous. Grapes are lovely and edible, but are frequently fermented into a much-abused drug. Iron can be forged into a cooking-pot -- or a sword.

    Anything can be abused. The dishonor is not in the resource itself, but in ourselves, and the use we make of it.
     
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  10. Engyo

    Engyo Prince of Dorkness!

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    I must agree with Seyorni here.
     
  11. Shadow Wolf

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    Marijuana is not evil. Ill admit it know, I am a pot head. Also, I don't have any criminal record, not even a traffic violation. The REAL truth is, pot doesn't slow down reaction time, make you stupid, violent, crazy, insane, or any other thing the media tries to convience people. The only negative side effect of long term marijuana usage is a short term memory problem. I worry about that when gets here.
    Actually, I got stoned AT WORK this last Friday. I came back in, was in a very good mood, finished closing and cleaning everything, and didn't get one complaint about something not being cleaned the next day. I even cleaned the meat slicer safly.
     
  12. Engyo

    Engyo Prince of Dorkness!

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    One thing that hasn't been studied enough, at least to my satisfaction, is what the long-term effects of marijuana smoke are in the lungs. Lungs aren't evolved to process smoke; so I can't imagine there NOT being some sort of long-term deterioriation of lung function. I haven't seen any studies of this to date; doesn't mean there aren't any, though.
     
  13. EnhancedSpirit

    EnhancedSpirit High Priestess

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    This is not true. The scriptures cover this quite clearly. This is actually repeated several times:

    Ge 1:29 - And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

    Ge 1:30 - And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

    Ge 3:18 - Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

    Ge 9:3 - Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
     
  14. CaptainXeroid

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    Yes I do. That's why I think it should be legalized. Marijuana in and of itself is no more evil that tobacco, wheat, or corn. It's a plant that grows, and people use it is many different ways.

    Much like organized crime ran the 'liquor industry' during prohibition, today's marijuana trade is rife with a criminal element and will as long as ganja is illegal.
     
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  15. Sabio

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    I beg to differ with you NetDoc, In all of the following scriptures the words "witchcraft" and "sorcery" are translated from the original greek "pharmakia", or literally drug abuse.

    Gal 5:16-23
    19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

    20 Idolatry, witchcraft ("pharmakia" or drug use), hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

    Acts 8:11
    And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.

    Revelation 9:21
    Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
    So my take on this is that the Bible clearly warns us that drug abuse is a sin.

    Sabio
     
  16. Linus

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    I was speaking in terms ofm the smoking of marijuana. Sorry I didn't clarify. I meant that I don't think that the abuse marijuana is not exactly honorable (with the exception of medicinal purposes). There is obviously nothing wrong with the plant itself.
     
  17. Engyo

    Engyo Prince of Dorkness!

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    Sabio -

    Can you explain the differences , scripturally, between drug abuse and alcohol abuse? People seem to draw distinctions between abuse of one intoxicant, alcohol, and abuse of most/all other intoxicants. Is there some scriptural reason for this? I can't find a logical one.
     
  18. Sabio

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    Well I think there is a distinction drawn, the bible calls alchohol; "wine", "beer", "strong drink", but does not seem to refer to it in the same catagory as pharmakia (sorcery, witchcraft), or as being used for sorcery or witchcraft.

    As for abuse and addiction, they are the same, any substance that you favor over God (or place before God), which leads you away from God, falls into this category.

    The Biblical references to Pharmakia or drug abuse, when read in context, refer to those people that were using these products to aid in a larger spiritual deception.

    Sabio
     
  19. Sabio

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    God put the cannabis plant here for a purpose, it has many uses including medicinal. But just like any other substance it can be used for good (medicine) or evil (drug abuse) according to our free will.

    Sabio
     
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  20. Linus

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    I agree. :)
     
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