Mandatory Vaccinations?

[Subduction Zone]

There's many examples the other way, too. There's tons of videos of people freaking out over others not wearing masks or even just walking by them in the sidewalk. Some of them made the national news, like that nurse or whatever freaking out last year and screaming her head off while camping or whatever it was.

Sometimes health care professionals are woefully undereducated. My Dad was in hospice at the start of the pandemic. It was not serious in our state at the time, but people were scared. I already knew that outdoors was the safest place to be. It does not take too much thinking to figure that out. I was not allowed by a nurse to take him outside during what was probably the last nice day before he passed. He thought that it was "dangerous" outside. He had that one hundred percent backwards. It is dangerous inside. Lord spare me from ignoramuses.

 

[fantome profane]

Actually, I think business owners should be required to pay for their employees' vaccinations.

Isn’t the vaccine free?


I come from a world where vacations are always free. The very idea of paying for a vacation seems completely asinine to me.

 

[fantome profane]

Typically, vaccine development takes about 12 years

The flu shot that comes out every year is obviously developed in less than a year. This is because it is just a variation on last years vaccine. The COVID vaccines are similar.

The vaccines you are referring to that take up to 12 years to develop do not take 12 years to test.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Isn’t the vaccine free?


I come from a world where vacations are always free. The very idea of paying for a vacation seems completely asinine to me.

Yes, for once we have some sense here.

 

[Kooky]

Isn’t the vaccine free?


I come from a world where vacations are always free. The very idea of paying for a vacation seems completely asinine to me.

It is in most developed countries, but I'm pretty sure the OP was talking about the US. Of course "free" in practice merely means that it is being paid by a functioning public healthcare system, which in turn tend to be funded primarily by the working class.

 

[RestlessSoul]

It is in most developed countries, but I'm pretty sure the OP was talking about the US. Of course "free" in practice merely means that it is being paid by a functioning public healthcare system, which in turn tend to be funded primarily by the working class.

Not only is vaccination, and testing, incurring a cost somewhere, but somebody is getting rich off the back of it

 

[Twilight Hue]

The flu shot that comes out every year is obviously developed in less than a year. This is because it is just a variation on last years vaccine. The COVID vaccines are similar.

The vaccines you are referring to that take up to 12 years to develop do not take 12 years to test.

So covid is basically the flu now?

 

[fantome profane]

So covid is basically the flu now?

Yes, very similar. Is that news to you?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yes, very similar. Is that news to you?

The way it's being treated as if it's the equivalent of a European plague in the middle ages, one has to wonder.

 

[fantome profane]

The way it's being treated as if it's the equivalent of a European plague in the middle ages, one has to wonder.

I didn’t say it wasn’t serious, it is much more deadly and communicable than the typical flu. I am saying they are similar on a structural level.

A tiger is similar to a house cat.

 

[RestlessSoul]

The way it's being treated as if it's the equivalent of a European plague in the middle ages, one has to wonder.

The 14th Century just called. They’re unimpressed, frankly.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I'd like to see an example if that ever happened with a past pandemic, or if this something that this generation thought up.

My opinion is if your vaccinated, then you have nothing to worry about from those who are not, so it should be a moot issue.

Your opinion, however, doesn't accord with the science (wonder of wonders!). There is such a thing as asymptomatic transmission, which is why I mentioned Typhoid Mary -- she carried the pathogen, but was not affected by it, even though she gave it to many people she came in contact with who sickened and often died.

 

[tytlyf]

So covid is basically the flu now?

Your brain is going to the symptoms. Don't do that. Why does everything have to be a bizarre conspiracy theory in that head of yours?
We blame your media.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The way it's being treated as if it's the equivalent of a European plague in the middle ages, one has to wonder.

FYI - you know that those plagues of the Middle Ages also caused similar symptoms, right?

Pneumonic plague - Wikipedia

 

[Revoltingest]

The current vaccines are not well tested and some have already proven to be deadly......I'll wait for more testing thank you....what you do is up to you.

Links to support the claim?
Also, hasn't the virus been proven to be deadly....dealier?

 

[Revoltingest]

So covid is basically the flu now?

Not quite.
Covid is more dangerous.
Ref...
Similarities and Differences between Flu and COVID-19

 

[SkepticThinker]

Are seat belts and air bags tested for effectiveness before they are offered to the public as a safety measure?

The current vaccines are not well tested and some have already proven to be deadly......I'll wait for more testing thank you....what you do is up to you.

2.12 Billion doses of the vaccines have been given out worldwide, to date, with 458 million of those people being fully vaccinated.
And that's after they were tested in clinical trials with tens of thousands of people.

How much more testing could you want?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I'd like to see an example if that ever happened with a past pandemic, or if this something that this generation thought up.

My opinion is if your vaccinated, then you have nothing to worry about from those who are not, so it should be a moot issue.

"Some people ask the question, “If vaccines work, why do unvaccinated people present a risk to those who have been vaccinated?” Two simple facts contribute to this answer. First: Vaccines aren’t 100 percent effective. So even some people who are vaccinated will still be at risk. Second: The greater the number of unvaccinated people in a community, the more opportunity germs have to spread. This means outbreaks are more difficult to stem and everyone is at greater risk of exposure — including vaccinated people."

Feature Article: If Vaccines Work, Why Do Unvaccinated People Pose a Risk? | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

 

[Twilight Hue]

"Some people ask the question, “If vaccines work, why do unvaccinated people present a risk to those who have been vaccinated?” Two simple facts contribute to this answer. First: Vaccines aren’t 100 percent effective. So even some people who are vaccinated will still be at risk. Second: The greater the number of unvaccinated people in a community, the more opportunity germs have to spread. This means outbreaks are more difficult to stem and everyone is at greater risk of exposure — including vaccinated people."

Feature Article: If Vaccines Work, Why Do Unvaccinated People Pose a Risk? | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

Then it defeats the whole point of getting a vaccine.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Then it defeats the whole point of getting a vaccine.

What? Why do you say that?

You are aware of herd immunity and how it works, right?