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Mandatory Vaccinations?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Friend of Mara, Jun 9, 2021.

  1. Friend of Mara

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    While this will likely go to court experts seem to think that requiring vaccinations for employment at a given place will be legal. Does this only affect hospitals and healthcare workers or is this a universal option? Should an employer be able to fire you based on your vaccination status?
     
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  2. The Hammer

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    I mean, you can be denied public schooling based on your child's vaccination record, so I don't see this as any different.

    It's for the safety of the community at large.
     
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  3. Twilight Hue

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    Nobody should be forced to take medications against their will. Especially experimental ones.
     
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    I'd require vaccination for the safety of all workers
    exposed to each other. I have one apartment undergoing
    renovation, soon to be ready for leasing. I'll require that
    the new tenant be vaccinated. This is because of a shared
    HVAC system.
    No one is forced to rent from me. Anyone who doesn't like
    how I run my property can do business elsewhere.
     
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  5. Orbit

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    I used to work in a hospital, and universally vaccinations are required, especially the TB vaccine. I don't see this as any different.
     
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    There's nothing experimental about these vaccines at this point.
     
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    If an employer wants to fire someone based on them being vaccinated, they should have to post signs saying that no one is vaccinated at the business - enter at your own risk.

    Conversely, it's a health and safety measure for other employees so yes, indeed, requiring vaccination to work anywhere where other employees work or the public comes can and should be mandated.
     
  8. Vinayaka

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    It's putting other people in danger. They ban smoking don't they?
     
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    The vaccine is NOT experimental; it is a variation on the standard flu jab.
     
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    My hospital requires both annual flu jabs and hepatitis B vaccination. Why would a Covid vaccination -- during a Covid pandemic -- be any different?
     
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  11. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    Mostly yes.

    If an employee is unvaccinated because of a legitimate medical condition or disability (e.g. an allergy to an ingredient in the vaccine), then they should be accommodated to a reasonable degree.

    If they're unvaccinated because they just don't like the idea, well, too bad for them.

    In some contexts, I'd argue that an employer might have a duty to require their employees to be vaccinated.
     
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  12. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    If they're free to quit, then requiring a vaccine as a condition of employment isn't forcing anyone.
     
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  13. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    If an employer wants to fire someone for being vaccinated, they should be prepared for a wrongful dismissal lawsuit.
     
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    Absolutely. You have every right to refuse to be vaccinated, but you have to be willing to live with the consequences, which is that much of society may choose to shun you.
     
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    But not in the deregulated, small-government, Republican, "Right-to-Work" states, where anyone can be fired at any time, at the whim of his employer. ;)
     
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    I think the issue is the get it or else thing. Maybe they would have got the vaccine, majority of them, if they weren't threatened their job.

    I don't think so. My parent works at SEC as a special police and they're thinking of making the vaccine mandatory. She said she'd quit her job she had for over ten years--not so much because she doesn't trust the vaccine but more of how companies, hospitals, etc threaten people to get it.

    No. I don't believe an employee should be fired. Can you imagine if majority of the people Did Not get vaccinated and left their job because of the ultimatum?

    If it were the majority, how would the hospital (and businesses) handle that?
     
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    But this isn't about the vaccine taking, it's about giving the "choice" after one has gotten their TB and other credentials they Knew about before they got the job.
     
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    They knew about the smoking ban before they got the job. How does that compare?
     
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    One should get the vaccine so they won't be shunned?
     
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    Hey, I had to get vaccinated against measles to get into 1st grade. What's the fuss about?
     
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