Man who donated his mother's body for Alzheimer's research discovers it was sold to the US Millitary

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I know there is an Art of War by Sun Tzu, there is also a book of the same name by Machiavelli.

Whether or not the corpse is being ‘put to good use’, it is terrible public relations, which was my point.

The most salient point though, is that the corpse was donated by the son for research into Altzheimers. He was treated shockingly. Absolutely gross heartlessness. That is the issue.

The general should use one of his deceased family members for bomb tests and target practice.
The military showed an appalling lack of sensitivity. As human as a rabid dog.

Well now we know the effect of HE on Alzheimer's effected grey matter.

 

[Howard Is]

I have no respect for the military institution of any country, not only the American.
And why do we need to develop weapons that do more and more damage to civilians who do not want the war in the first place?

Because it keeps an elite minority obscenely wealthy.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'm not big on respecting them either.
Nonetheless, I see their usefulness.
Of course the military often misbehaves & is misused by leaders.
It requires continuous wary watching & managing.

There is no need to do that.
It's just often an unfortunate consequence.
But that doesn't mean that we should abandon having a military.
Why?
Aggressive enemies won't take that pollyanna attitude.

Let's consider WW2 again....
Norway was neutral, & became occupied by Nazi Germany.
Responsibility to stop Hitler fell to countries willing to design,
build & use weapons. I prefer this to the Norwegian approach,
which would allow Hitler to impose his reign upon the world.

I was not alive under WW2 so I can not say anything about what was done right or wrong at that time. they took the decision they did.
If I had to speak german because that became the language of Norway, it would still only be a language. That said it does not mean I would agree to the terms of the ideology Hitler tried to force upon us at that time.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Because it keeps an elite minority obscenely wealthy.

Wellllll... that's perhaps a bit of an oversimplification of the Cold War...

 

[Howard Is]

Wellllll... that's perhaps a bit of an oversimplification of the Cold War...

No, it’s just an economic fact.

 

[Howard Is]

I was not alive under WW2 so I can not say anything about what was done right or wrong at that time. they took the decision they did.
If I had to speak german because that became the language of Norway, it would still only be a language. That said it does not mean I would agree to the terms of the ideology Hitler tried to force upon us at that time.

And we are so lucky to have people like George W Bush and Trump and Putin running the world. Yay freedom !

 

[Revoltingest]

Whether or not the corpse is being ‘put to good use’, it is terrible public relations, which was my point.

I can certainly agree with that.
But I doubt they intended that info to become advertised.
The masses are squeamish.

The most salient point though, is that the corpse was donated by the son for research into Altzheimers. He was treated shockingly. Absolutely gross heartlessness. That is the issue.

I don't know the terms of the agreement.
Perhaps neither did that donor.
Criminy, I've arranged to donate my own corpse, & I don't recall
placing any restrictions upon the type of research to be done.
As always....if there is an agreement, it should be honored.

The general should use one of his deceased family members for bomb tests and target practice.
The military showed an appalling lack of sensitivity. As human as a rabid dog.

Note that while I favor a strong defense, I am a felonious draft dodger.

 

[Howard Is]

If I had to speak german because that became the language of Norway, it would still only be a language. That said it does not mean I would agree to the terms of the ideology Hitler tried to force upon us at that time.

Interestingly, Hitler’s rise to power was assisted greatly by financial support from the Bush family !

So...if you were speaking German, you could thank the Bush dynasty.

 

[Revoltingest]

No, it’s just an economic fact.

No, it's a political opinion.

 

[Revoltingest]

Interestingly, Hitler’s rise to power was assisted greatly by financial support from the Bush family !

So...if you were speaking German, you could thank the Bush dynasty.

This is one of those claims which deserves a cogent argument in support.

 

[Howard Is]

Note that while I favor a strong defense, I am a felonious draft dodger.

LOL

 

[Howard Is]

No, it's a political opinion.

No, it’s an economic fact.

 

[Revoltingest]

I was not alive under WW2 so I can not say anything about what was done right or wrong at that time. they took the decision they did.

I'm not making you responsible.
But I thought it would be a personally meaningful example.

If I had to speak german because that became the language of Norway, it would still only be a language. That said it does not mean I would agree to the terms of the ideology Hitler tried to force upon us at that time.

Could we agree that militarily defeating Hitler was better than submitting?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

No, it’s just an economic fact.

Not really, but if simplistic misconceptions help you cope, OK, I guess.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Interestingly, Hitler’s rise to power was assisted greatly by financial support from the Bush family !

So...if you were speaking German, you could thank the Bush dynasty.

Yes, as far as i have learned Prescot Bush was a Nazi follower.

 

[Revoltingest]

No, it’s an economic fact.

People so often confuse their opinions with indisputable facts.
The former lack the objective support of the latter.
Mere strong belief doesn't suffice.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'm not making you responsible.
But I thought it would be a personally meaningful example.

Could we agree that militarily defeating Hitler was better than submitting?

It is always good when evil is defeated, but it is the way it is defeated that is a problem. war is not about government against government, war always harm those who are not a part of it (civilian people)
And military often is driven by egoistic political and military forces, but yes it has been like this most of human history

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Better to explode dead than live ones.
Such research is important.
Being grisly & offensive to delicate sensibilities makes it no less so.

A dead person who was more desperately needed for research in other areas. Uncle Sam is already very, very good at killing people. We can't cure Alzheimers yet.

Have you read The Prince and Art of War by Machiavelli ?
He would disagree with you, and go on to explain how mistreatment of the people makes them uncooperative and less productive.

General Curtis Goatheart doesn’t have the grey matter to figure that out.

The Art of War is an ancient Chinese text written by Sun Tsu. With the Prince, Machiavelli probably wouldn't disagree because it's an issue of conventional morality, states priorities, and people are pretty much powerless to do anything over it. It will answer some, but their anger isn't sufficient enough for the prince to concern himself with.

 

[Revoltingest]

A dead person who was more desperately needed for research in other areas. Uncle Sam is already very, very good at killing people. We can't cure Alzheimers yet.

I've no idea which was the highest & best use for her legacy.

 

[Revoltingest]

It is always good when evil is defeated, but it is the way it is defeated that is a problem. war is not about government against government, war always harm those who are not a part of it (civilian people)
And military often is driven by egoistic political and military forces, but yes it has been like this most of human history

My approach....
Prepare for the possibility of war.
Prepare to avoid it.
We need to do a better job at both.