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Man is not an animal

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Animals do not have articulate speech and poets. Man is not an animal.

Yes, the animals can communicate. But they have no articulate speech. There is difference: articulate communication, and non-articulate one. Articulate one has alphabet. Do whales have letters in alphabet order?

Many humans do use alphabet. Some humans are sick or not developed so much, so they do not.
But no bear, wolf, nor spider is using alphabet.

According to this ridiculous theory a newborn baby is an animal??
No. I repeat: "Many humans do use alphabet. Some humans are sick or not developed so much"

IF you define an animal.....
I am not defining. I am saying fact:

Only humans use alphabet.

Some humans are humans, but do not use alphabet (they are e.g. babies).

But no single bear has used alphabet. Hence, humans are not bears.

HOWEVER, there are plenty of apes who use ASL (a type of alphabet)??
Why a type of alphabet, but not actual alphabet? Can you list right here the first 10 letters of monkeys alphabet? And what words are there in their language? How they sound?

But the real thing that sets us apart from animals is the spiritual component, almost all humans understand that they are spiritual beings??
They have replied, that monkeys built primitive holy places as well.

CONCLUSION:

Animals know the Lord, unlike the atheists. Top primates are religious, and praying, and having alphabet.
But they are not human, because they have mortal soul.

John Nash was a Nobel Prize winner in economic science and a member of the Academy of Sciences. He was also highly delusional and spent considerable periods in psychiatric hospitals.
Most people are schizophrenic, because schizophrenia is a person's split. Major splits are: Faith vs. Knowledge, Religion vs. Science, State vs. Church separation.

People with schizophrenia require lifelong treatment??
Not all people. For example, the atheists have schizophrenic split between God and reality. But most of them are not in mental clinics.
 
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Altfish

Veteran Member
Animals do not have articulate speech and poets. Man is not an animal.
Why are you frightened of the fact that humans are just apes?
We are superior in one crucial way, we have a larger brain.
We can't fly, we can't run very fast, we can't swim underwater apart for short times, our eyesight is poor when compared to many animals. My dog has a far superior sense of smell.

Speech and poetry do make us different but do not define us as 'not animal'.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Animals do not have articulate speech and poets. Man is not an animal.

Animal speech patterns may have an impact on an animal's emotional or mental condition similar to poetry.

Regardless, this is similar to an ant saying we are animals and they are not because we don't have the same subtle reactions to the chemical stimuli of our species that they do.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
The question is just a matter of how the words are defined.

But anyway, I think man is at a higher level of soul evolution than the rest of earth life. And I don't believe evolution was just 'natural' but also guided by higher beings.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
Animals do not have articulate speech and poets. Man is not an animal.
I don't really think that is how one classify an animal :)

Animals doesn't build rocket ships and travel into space either.. so you could simply classify an animal based on that, following your logic. All biological lifeforms that doesn't create spaceships and travel into space are animals.

In accordance with the Linnaeus method, scientists classify the animals, as they do the plants, on the basis of shared physical characteristics. They place them in a hierarchy of groupings, beginning with the kingdom animalia and proceeding through phyla, classes, orders, families, genera and species.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Animals do not have articulate speech and poets. Man is not an animal.
Some animals are absolutely capable of speech.

I agree with you. If we were to give a monkey unlimited time to evolve, they would never become conscious like us. We are not apes, we are Godlike creatures, imo.
I've yet to encounter anybody capable of explaining what "being conscious" actually means in ways that doesn't simply refer back to "you know, just like myself". We can't even observe whether other human beings are "conscious" without assuming inobservable (essentially, supernatural) characteristics for whose existence there is no evidence whatsoever.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Animals do not have articulate speech and poets. Man is not an animal.
How do you know they don't? Because you don't speak whale?

"Strictly speaking, a language implies syntax in which word order determines meaning. Studies conducted on dolphins in captivity have shown that these animals were able to understand the syntax of human language through image and sound associations, in addition to memorizing some one hundred words allowing them to respond to specific commands. But this “communication” remains unidirectional, as Man has not been able to dissect the “language” of dolphins. What we do know: voice communication is extremely important for whales, who use it to convey a wealth of information to other members of their species.

"Toothed whales have highly varied vocal repertoires, which is probably related to their developed social behaviour. In some species, individuals emit unique sounds tantamount to voice signatures. Bottlenose dolphins, for example, have a personalized whistle. They are believed to call out to one another by imitating the voice signature of another member of the group so that the latter knows it is being addressed. In response, the targeted individual repeats its vocal signal. In killer whales, each family group has a specific dialect with its own variations in tone or frequency. Sperm whales within a given clan share vocalization patterns to communicate, recognize and establish social ties, but a female and her newborn use a distinct pattern to identify one another. Beluga have an extremely varied vocal repertoire. They are able to reproduce the sounds they hear, for instance the human voice. To maintain communication, beluga mothers and their babies use a “contact call.” The repertoire of sound emissions becomes richer and more complex over time. It takes one to two years for young belugas to develop a perfect interpretation of these “contact calls”.

Do Whales have Language? - Baleines en direct
This kind of destroys your argument, doesn't it?
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
How do you know they don't? Because you don't speak whale?
Some animals are absolutely capable of speech.

Well, it's not clear that whales and dolphins and elephants and such don't have poetry - they just might!

Yes, the animals can communicate. But they have no articulate speech. There is difference: articulate communication, and non-articulate one. Articulate one has alphabet. Do whales have letters in alphabet order?
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes, the animals can communicate. But they have no articulate speech. There is difference: articulate communication, and non-articulate one. Articulate one has alphabet. Do whales have letters in alphabet order?

Many humans today don't have an alphabetic language.

Writing is a comparatively recent behavior among humans. Throughout most of the time our species has been around, we did not have writing.
 

The Hammer

[REDACTED]
Premium Member
We are superior in one crucial way, we have a larger brain.

Larger brain has nothing to do with it.

It's about the number of neuronal connections.

(Brain size measurements go back to the age of determining which "Races" were less intelligent or more inclined to be "civilized" based on brain volume. )
 
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