Primordial Annihilator
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Unfortunately, this man is a respected leader in Israel, not some fringe nut job with a congregation consisting of his own family.
Worry ye not for he will meet his maker soon enough.
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Unfortunately, this man is a respected leader in Israel, not some fringe nut job with a congregation consisting of his own family.
Let's criticize both of them equally. Let's us Jews feel comfortable criticizing this Rabbi, and let's Muslims feel comfortable criticizing some bigoted Imam when he spouts his crap. How does that sound?We both know that Muslims and Jews both can hold prejudiced views of each other. for every prejudiced rabbi, it would take me 2 seconds to find an Imam saying the same things. so yalla lets get over it, and play nice.
Let's criticize both of them equally. Let's us Jews feel comfortable criticizing this Rabbi, and let's Muslims feel comfortable criticizing some bigoted Imam when he spouts his crap. How does that sound?
Come on. The OP doesn't say every single Jewish person is a racist bigot. This thread is only about this particular Rabbi. It was newsworthy in the Jerusalem Post because many people, including Jews, find this Rabbi's statements racist and controversial.
To me, the interesting issue this raises is that the whole concept of "We are God's chosen people" is inherently racist, even when it is not articulated in the offensive terms of this Rabbi.
Ovadiah Yosef is a right-wing fundamentalist wacko. He has a long, long career of coming out with ridiculously inflammatory statements that the majority of the Jewish people would have nothing to do with.
The Shas party represent Sefardi and Mizrahi Haredim-- ultra-Orthodox Jews, in other words, radical fundamentalists.
Radical fundamentalists are disgraceful and make the rest of their religion look bad, no matter what religion they are.
To be fair, Yosef was slightly more restrained and rational when he was younger. He's been getting more than a little nutty, even for him, since he started getting upward of 80. But he was always inflammatory and right-wing. Someone wittier than I am once said that Ovadiah Yosef has one of the best rabbinic minds of the Fourteenth Century....
To me, the interesting issue this raises is that the whole concept of "We are God's chosen people" is inherently racist, even when it is not articulated in the offensive terms of this Rabbi.
Brother every thing you say is nice and truth and easily understandable by westerners but in other parts of the world no body is even gonna notice your kind of a reply since you are a descendant of apes and pigs it means you are deceiving them and in reality you want to make them slaves. Reality is a lot different to what we are used to, trying to explain Rabbi Yosefs words in a nice manner is pointless it is like talking to a wall, trying to make it all sound nice to appease our fellow westerners otherwise they would say "your religion is so cruel it has slaves it has this and that" but what have we accomplished?
Have we ever achieved honor in the eyes of the Goim no matter how hard we tried? No every now and then they betray us no matter what we do we are Jews to them.
Israel is the perfect example, no matter how hard they try no body is satisfied they want more and more and they will sell all of us in a heartbeat, it is a reality it was always like this.
What happened to us? we all come here and bash our Tzadik and Talmid haham? the words of a Tzadik were always like gold to us, it is what helped us survive all this and now we come here and bash him to appease others? Rav Yosef knows exactly what he is talking about because history and Torah show it otherwise.
Brother every thing you say is nice and truth and easily understandable by westerners but in other parts of the world no body is even gonna notice your kind of a reply since you are a descendant of apes and pigs it means you are deceiving them and in reality you want to make them slaves. Reality is a lot different to what we are used to, trying to explain Rabbi Yosefs words in a nice manner is pointless it is like talking to a wall, trying to make it all sound nice to appease our fellow westerners otherwise they would say "your religion is so cruel it has slaves it has this and that" but what have we accomplished?
Have we ever achieved honor in the eyes of the Goim no matter how hard we tried? No every now and then they betray us no matter what we do we are Jews to them.
Israel is the perfect example, no matter how hard they try no body is satisfied they want more and more and they will sell all of us in a heartbeat, it is a reality it was always like this.
What happened to us? we all come here and bash our Tzadik and Talmid haham? the words of a Tzadik were always like gold to us, it is what helped us survive all this and now we come here and bash him to appease others? Rav Yosef knows exactly what he is talking about because history and Torah show it otherwise.
Do you agree with him?
He said, "We have a case of the Jew...a totally different species."Rabbi Mendel Schneerson, the late Jewish Lubavitcher and friend of the senior George Bush, also believed the Jews are a superior Master Race. Many Jews today agree with the late Rabbi. Some even believe that Schneerson will himself someday be resurrected and return as the Jewish World Messiah. Schneerson once explained his theory of Jewish racial superiority this way.
From the book, 'The Rockefellar Syndrome' by Ferdinand Lundberg."We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promise of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The super-national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
---David Rockefeller, at a 1991 Bilderberger meeting
"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
---David Rockefeller
Regarding Women's liberation Movement :Rockefeller also told Russo that he would see soldiers looking in caves in Afghanistan and Pakistan for Osama bin Laden and that there would be an "Endless war on terror where there's no real enemy and the whole thing is a giant hoax," so that "the government could take over the American people," according to Russo, who said that Rockefeller was cynically laughing and joking as he made the astounding prediction
This revelation dovetails previous admissions on behalf of feminist pioneer Gloria Steinem (pictured) that the CIA bankrolled Ms. Magazine as part of the same agenda of breaking up traditional family models.Rockefeller told Russo of two primary reasons why the elite bankrolled women's lib: One before women's lib the bankers couldn't tax half the population and two because it allowed them to get children in school at an earlier age, enabling them to be indoctrinated into accepting the state as the primary family, breaking up the traditional family model.
Sorry, but once I stumbled upon Illuminati, among other things, I couldn't keep reading. Seriously?My question to >>Zardoz>> and other Jews.
I can readily understand why you would want to run away from such a ridiculous post.:run:
I quoted from ferdinand's book rather than the webpage, only linked it for a source.Sorry, but once I stumbled upon Illuminati, among other things, I couldn't keep reading. Seriously?
What are your specific questions about these families?My question to >>Zardoz>> and other Jews.
What do they think about the Rockefeller and Rothschild family?Are they not some old really shrewd men who'd know what they are talking about?
I'm skeptical about this one. I can only find it on some obscure anti-semitic websites known for making up bogus Jewish quotes, so I'm going to withold judgment until I determine whether he really said that or not.here's another influential rabbi,
He said, "We have a case of the Jew...a totally different species."
"The body of a Jewish person," Schneerson bragged, "is of a totally different quality from the body of members of all other nations of the world. Bodies of the Gentiles are in vain. An even greater difference is in regard to the soul...A non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness."
Same for this one. I question whether he said it, and if so, would like to see the full context. Jews are different, so I don't see a problem with saying that.Holocaust activist Elie Wiesel, whose is often accused of lying about his holocaust experiences seeming to be legion, also claims that Jews are a superior race. "Everything about us is different," Wiesel boasts. "Jews are ontologically exceptional."
This is an anti-semitic hate site full of lies. I would not believe anything you find there, and certainly would not disseminate it. It's irresponsible, at best.
Im disappointed, this isn't even a nice try on your part to lavish me with your mickey mouse intellect, look who's talking . I posted that icon in the wrong thread. : POh do try to be serious, Starsoul. I know it is an effort, but TRY.
I can readily understand why you would want to run away from such a ridiculous post.
Par for the course on RF, I suppose.
If it's something like stormfront.org, you can assume it's a lie.
I wasn't criticizing Jews. I was criticizing the idea that "We are God's chosen people". Many Jewish people disagree with this idea.I would like you to point out where and how we proclaim we are the chosen people, even if we would claim to be chosen people do we somehow take something away from others? no, we are not Christian and Muslims, we don't go on conquests to murder or convert and make everybody Jews and then through the blame on others, the entire concept of chosen people were taken out of context by by those who just needed a reason and to this day it is those who just want to find something to steer up the trouble.
Considering our selfs chosen really helps survive the stupidity that always surrounded us for centuries if we always manage to take over the world banks and money we might as well are chosen.
Another good thing to bear in mind re: Jews. We are possibly the least unified or monolithic group in the world. We have a saying: Two Jews, three opinions. No one is in charge, and each Jew gets to figure it out for herself. There are anti-Zionist Jews and atheist Jews, communist and ultra-conservative, fundamentalist and reconstructionist and oddly, we're all Jews and no one can tell us otherwise. So there is no Jewish position on anything, not even the existence of God.