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Featured Lusting after him or her in your heart

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Maccabeaus, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. Maccabeaus

    Maccabeaus New Member

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    Hi. I'm new here. My first post I wanted to discuss the subject of something that seems taboo to talk about : - pornography. The Messiah constantly referred to the generation he was apart of as an 'adulterous generation' but I would venture to say that the generation we are living in is far worst thanks to the rise of pornography especially through the internet and telivision. So I have a question. Why do so few predominantly Chr-stian countries do *nothing* about it? And I'm not just referring to porn sites, I'm referring to any site which harbors content of a sexualised nature. Matthew 5:28 and Romans 13:14 clearly forbids us to watch these things and it seems clear to me that unless we as a nation can turn away from this epidemic, we as a nation will be judged for it.

    I was reading Ezekiel 7 - 17 today and it was heart rending, especially Ezekiel 16:30. We as human beings are permitted to lust after none other but our spouses. If we have fallen short, then surely we must repent.
     
  2. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    I think it largely depends on how one defines "lusting". Sexual attractions are normal and acceptable, imo, but scheming to have sex with your neighbor's wife is not.
     
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  3. Spiderman

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    I think there will be much nudity in heaven. Adam and Eve were "naked without shame".

    There is a reason God made us so interested in sex. It's a good thing. The human body is a temple that contains beauty that is to be admired and give glory to the creator.

    I don't think any Government should be a Theocracy that outlaws pornography. Though I do think porn addiction is quite unhealthy and can lead to harming others.
     
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    Why are you using the Jewish custom of editing names?

    And your avatar is a bit Freudian too.
     
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    Meaning, if the Government outlaws porn, that is simply giving the government too much power. Look at countries like North Korea and Saudi Arabia where porn is illegal. Governments become dangerous when given that power!
     
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    Jainarayan ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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    1. The US is not a Christian country and is not bound by the Bible or any other religious document.
    2. Pornography and the definition of obscenity have made their rounds through the US Supreme Court. As Justice Potter Stewart said "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that." See also Roth v. United States - Wikipedia and Jacobellis v. Ohio - Wikipedia
     
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    Can you explain how a person who is single how can they commit adultery?

    You know this only pertain's to people who are married.
    If a single guy looks upon a woman to lust to have her as his wife or a woman who lust to have a man as her husband. There's nothing wrong in that.
    How else are people to come together, if they do not have a certain lust for the other person, that they would want to be married to.
    I suppose you just walk around and not look at women, I will say you will have a certain lust to want to be with her as a boyfriend and girlfriend.
    Otherwise how are people to come together.
    I myself has gone through that period of my life. Wanting to be with a girl and have dreams about her, wanting her to be my girlfriend and I be her boyfriend.

    So there is a certain amount of lust that comes into play. Between a man and a woman. To be with each other.
    Some will call it a deep emotional love.
    Some will call it a deep attraction for the other.
    But it all comes down to a deep lust for one another.
     
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  8. Maccabeaus

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    Hi Faithofchristian. Yes, I think with single people the issue is mainly fornication which is also forbidden (i.e. 1 Corinthians 6:18). And yes, for two people to be joined together in matrimony there is going to be a certain level of attraction prior to marriage. The lust I am referring to is that especially through pornography.
     
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    The governments of nations do try to control it. However, nations are run based on majority opinion, not the word of God.
     
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    So what are we singletons supposed to do, huh? Crush our lust into a micro-singularity of repressed emotions for fear of offending the 'Almighty'?
     
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  11. Father Heathen

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    Because such countries are typically modern, developed, freedom loving, secular democracies, rather than 3rd world, tyrannical theocracies.

    I thought god judged individuals. So if you have a country where 51% are unsaved sinners, and 49% are saved adherents, does that mean the whole country is going to hell, including the otherwise saved ones?

    The solution is simple; if you find porn abhorrent, avoid it. Why are religious folk so adamant about meddling in the personal, private lives of others who might not even share their beliefs?
     
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    Because God doesn't care enough to give the same word to a voting majority.
    Well, maybe in Iran. But not here in the USA.
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    But there are nations governed by "the word of god."

    Mostly in the Middle East.
     
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    Not the Bible. The Koran is not the word of God.
     
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    The voting majority has His word but they ignore it. That's why the world is such an evil place.
     
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    The worst of the Sharia laws can't even be proven by Muslims that they actually come from the Quran. It's more like a person taking the Quran and adding their own stuff as "prophets" of Allah.

    Any decent science education would hinder believing some of this stuff.
    Death Penalty in Traditional Islam Law
     
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    I suspect if you're forced into acceptance of a moral position by the state, have you really repented?
     
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    Please provide objectively-derived evidence for this.
     
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    Compare the two and come to a conclusion.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    I have done so many times and I don't buy either.

    BTW, you didn't produce any of the evidence I asked for, and I think we both know why that's the case. Maybe it's best to state an opinion as if it's an opinion and not pretend it's a fact.
     
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