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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by IndigoChild5559, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. Nakosis

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    You can't expect other people to change. Usually at least not for your sake.

    Me, I don't give a crap about your religion, nationality, skin tone. That's all irrelevant, but I don't talk about other people's wives. that's just rude. Other folks however see nothing wrong with it.
     
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    It was not Darwinian Evolution that Hitler appealed to. It was a non-scientific social? evolution that may have contributed to the Holocaust. The consideration that the science of Evolution i 'partly' responsible i slander against science. Science has been misused throughout history, and this is nothing new.

    Not bizarre at all! Your objection to Christians being blamed does not reflect the history of the relationship between Christians and Jews in the history of Europe. First, there i a long history of persecution of Jews in both Eastern and Western Europe. Martin Luther's: On the Jews and Their Lies - Wikipedia
    On the Jews and Their Lies (German: Von den Jüden und iren Lügen; in modern spelling Von den Juden und ihren Lügen) is a 65,000-word antisemitic treatise written in 1543 by the German Reformation leader Martin Luther.

    Third, Hitler had widespread support not only in Germany, but throughout Europe for his program for the ethnic cleansing of the Jews, Gypsies and others. Fourth, the passion plays depicting Jews as "Christ killers," were common throughout Europe and incited anti-Jewish violence.

    Like some others on this cite and many throughout the world need not try and rewrite history and take responsibility for the Holocaust, and the WHOLE history of the persecution and ethnic cleansing of the Jews and others.
     
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    Partly the misuse of the science of evolution, but actually not the primary reason. You missed the fact of the 'misuse of science,' which happens throughout history.
     
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    They also thought Jews killed Jesus, so loosely interpreted you could look for scapegoats anywhere.

    If you read Darwin and find anything like that in his books, let me know. Or in ToE for that matter. The racial supremacy of Jews and Germans (they thought only Jews could compete with Germans) that they believed was complete bunk even at the time and a product of European empire's thinking. Not science, but silly ideas. And Nazis seemed to conveniently change their ideas on who was superior.
     
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    Can you clarify this. Are you saying Christians should take responsibility for the holocaust or not?

    Right just as misuse of the Bible happens.
     
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    And from where do you get this information?
    You haven't seen the videos?
    I have. This is just one documented file:

     
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    I am aware that there are many Catholic individuals who have nothing to do with the persecution of Jews. I also appreciate the attempt to make amends. My point is simply that any group/organization which may claim to be Christian (Catholic or otherwise), yet ties their religion with politics, misinterpreting scripture for their own power is in a place to persecute, as the Catholic church did the Jews.
    I don't know about other groups of Christians. Some groups of Christians today were not even in existence during times of Jewish persecution and many of your average Christians through history who have adhered to the scriptures would never have taken part in persecuting the Jews, understanding they hold an important place in God's heart and plan.
     
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    Christians should take considerable responsibility for the Holocaust, because of the history which I cited.

    Careful, than the majority of the Christians of Europe misused the Bible.
     
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    Would never?!?!?!? Many Individuals?!?!?! So What?!?!?! Problem here, the majority of Christians of Europe took part, tolerated or turned their backs on the reality of the persecution, and ethnic cleansing throughout the history of Europe..
     
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    Yes, you are right, but the majority of "Christians" were Catholics or Lutherans with churches tied into the politics. Nevertheless, there were many Christians who stood against Hitler, worked for the resistance, or helped the Jews hide and escape.
     
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    Disagree, there were not that 'many.' Not all the resistance to Hitler was the reason many stood against Hitler. The historical persecution of Jews in history also included the Orthodox Churches.
     
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    I'm American. Americans largely at least nominal Christians; fought the Nazis. My grand father served in the war. My great uncle died in the war.

    It's insulting that anyone thinks I'm responsible for the holocaust. In fact I'm part Jewish anyway.

    So they did. And it's no surprise.

    Didn't Jesus say "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

    And Jesus said you will know them by their fruits.

    It's easy for people to say they follow the scriptures. Many are called but few are chosen.
     
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    Wrongs have happened in the past but I did not do them and pledge not to be part of them in the future. That is the best I can do.
     
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    And like I have already pointed out, one big reason for that persecution from those churches is because of their false doctrine of Replacement theology.
     
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    If you're addressing 1robin, he's left the building and apparently won't be back. See HERE
     
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    I'm saying that it was about 97,000 that died in each of the camps, German, American and British. I'm not sure about Japanese, so I didn't say. Most of the deaths were attributed to starvation and disease in the last few weeks of the war since all means of shipment of supplies, i.e. roads, railroads, airplane runways, were destroyed.
     
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    FWIW, I have never had the faintest idea what a person
    could possibly think of as a reason to object to Jews.
    It is beyond ridiculous.
     
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    Anyone who gets the idea that the
    "concept of evolution" in any way
    supports "racial superiority" is ignorant
    or stupid, or both.
     
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    As are many people.
     
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    If someone did think that "Darwinism" supported their
    ideas of racial purity, it was not because they understood
    the theory of evolution.

    Others have used the bible to justify genocide and slavery.
    They kind of missed Jesus' simple message.
     
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